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The problem with that video is that it assumes that that the internet is involved at some stage. In India, that isn't the case.

EVMs are not internet enabled, neither are they "programmed" by sticking a USB in them. They come in huge sealed boxes to the centres, and are carried back the same away. The data never leaves these machines. If my knowledge is correct, the data can only be accessed by a high ranking election official called the RO.

Paper ballots were the norm in India for over 40 years before EVMs were introduced. Election fraud has been non-existent since then.

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As Tom Scott points out in the video you're just moving the problem. They may not be connected to the Internet, but surely someone has programmed them. Who? And how do you know noone has changed the software? If they've been programmed at one point they can be programmed again.

It's Pandora's box.

>Election fraud has been non-existent since then.

Can you provide a source for this please?

I think it's disingenuous to ask for the proof of non-existence of something so obvious that if it existed, it would have caused a huge uproar.

There has been no proof of election fraud in Indian elections since EVMs were introduced, apart from the usual whining of the leaders who expectedly lost.

Well, there is currently a huge uproar in India about exactly this so I'm not sure if it's all that disingenuous.

Moreover, even a cursory search of electoral frauds in India throws up a huge gamut of complaints, ranging from 'ghost voters' to missing ballot boxes (and EVMs). Parking aside an another unsubstantiated claim that leaders who lost are just 'whining', I will still contest the claim that 'there have been no electoral frauds' since EVMs were introduced, as your original comment implied.

There were allegations of evm tampering recently. It's still unclear whether they are true.

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/fIKiRvhaDSieYz25Lm8vRM/EVM-...

Non existent or completely hidden?

I would be very surprised if it could be "completely hidden" given the political partisanship that exists in India.

Considering that the media is always howling about how the results have been tampered with.. Election fraud in India with evms is like hiding a tree in a forest, no-one would know for sure with all the allegations flying around.

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