Umm, I've seen plenty of balanced views in this thread. I'm a vegan, partially for animal rights but I still encourage meat-eaters that are concerned to go for the better stuff. I don't believe it is the best solution, but I applaud anyone willing to attempt to make things better.

"the animal rights people" is a pretty broad brush, I know that quite a few can be completely impossible to discuss the nuances with but honestly, there are so many vegetarians for ethical reasons around that just don't say anything or go "cool, that's better than industrial farming". I also encounter a good part of meat-eaters that become incredible defensive and almost hostile if they find out about my dietary choices.

Always frustrating to see black and white grouping when the truth is incredibly nuanced.

Who are these "animal rights people"? Do they really all think as a monolith? Is it fair to characterize each individual with any concern for animal rights as "one of them"?