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Safari 5 to be launched at WWDC with Safari Reader?

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When I read there was support for "HTML5 Ruby" I thought, can it be? There's an HTML5 spec that calls for implementing Ruby in the browser?

Sadly, no: http://www.quackit.com/html_5/tags/html_ruby_tag.cfm

Though not HTML5, it is possible to script Ruby browser-side in IE, Firefox and Safari: http://www.rubyinside.com/ironruby-silverlight-ruby-in-brows...

Well.. sort of ;-)

It is for East Asian language support, though, which may have an indirect connection to Ruby, the language, since it's from Japan.

"...will apparently include a Reader functionality that will make web page reading easier by extracting and organizing the text."

Hrm. Sounds a lot like Instapaper.

Or Readability; http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/

Or my project which was based off of readability:

http://toadjaw.com/article?url=http%3A%2F%2F9to5mac.com%2FSa...

Great!

What technique are you using to deduce what the content of the page is? A straight port of Arc90's open source code or some magic of your own? (I'm asking because I'm keen to improve their technique for a library I'm working on.)

I'd be interested in alternative methods as well. I wrote the algorithms within readability, which are far from perfect.

Can you expand on how it's different/better from readability? What were you hoping to accomplish with your fork?

I tried going to toadjaw.com but was given a login page.

I'd be real interested in their method for finding only the content of a page for "reading". Is it a custom template for most major sites or something smarter?

Been a year since the last major Safari release, so the timing seems right.

How much of this list is currently present in the nightly build of Webkit?

None of the UI stuff but the JS improvements are there. About the same speed as Chrome (so about 30-40% faster than Safari 4 according to the SunSpider benchmark)

Aside: I discovered only last week that all the nice developer tools in Safari are also available in Arora, a Webkit based browser for Linux

I hope the reader mode uses TeX for formatting or equivalent, getting tired of nasty print as more and more stuff goes digital.

I hope they bring back the blue progress bar.

Thrilled about the innovation the new browser wars are bringing. Only great things for end users!

Bing is added to search engines list. Better alternative then Yahoo.

I'm hoping there will be some additional customisability of the search box, I want to use google.com.au, not google.com, and I'd really prefer not to install more Safari addons (had some issues with memory leaks in the past).

How does the XSS Auditor work?

I can't think of a reliable way to filter out "malicious" code without also having many false positives.

Without having seen their solution, I feel that the browser is the wrong place to fix this kind of problem anyway. Much like PHP tried to prevent SQL Injection Attacks with "Magic Quotes" - we all know how that went.

This is not about the browser "fixing" the issue, but rather helping developers find the issues in the first place.

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