Both are nice and pleasant guys to work with, unlike a lot of the drooling idiots that act like this "rivalry" is some sort of football game. Funny how master craftsmen don't often blame their tools, they sharpen them instead.

Any time someone blames their tools for their own inadequacies, show them this video of Kelly Slater surfing better on an overturned table than most of us can surf on a 7 foot three fin board: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4owd3yQ_4. Up your game instead!

Edit: hacker news doesn't use that part of markdown