The biggest problem is linkrot. As a rough estimate 13% of links die every year, and it's quite possibly much higher than that. (https://www.gwern.net/Archiving%20URLs) Without the glorious web archive, bookmarks would be unusuable. And I wonder how many people know about web archive.. Youtube-dl may also be useful if you want to preserve music or videos (despite the name, it works on almost every site I've tried it on including audio sites.) Someday I intend to script something up to automatically scrape all my bookmarks and make a local copy, but it seems complex.
This is a problem that I was tired of dealing with, and hence I made https://github.com/crestify/crestify
It archives all bookmarks to archive.org and archive.today.
wget --recursive --level=5 --convert-links --page-requisites --wait=1 --random-wait --timestamping --no-parent $1
Combine with something to parse out the Chrome bookmarks (it's XML, IIRC), and it wouldn't take too long to nail down.Funnily although I pay for the service I am yet to actually use the archive!
Some anecdata on linkrot:
I started paying for the archive about 3 years after starting on pinboard.
This was about 10 years after starting my bookmarks on Delicious later imported to pinboard
13166 of your bookmarks have been archived, representing 64% of your collection.
This consumes 11.82 G of disk space.
7491 bookmarks have not been stored due to errors:
not found 964
bad request 4
unauthorized 5
forbidden 113
gone 17
rate limited 3
server error 6251
bad gateway 14
unavailable 78
I recursively download sites using curl/wget on websites I want to preserve for a long time. Is web archive something different?
I am not using such service, but isn't there a way (i.e. addon) to generate a copy of the page you bookmarked in order to remedy to that kind of issue ?
Regarding linkrot, I think Pocket or Instapaper will solve that for your because they copy the underlying content from the page.
For instance, maybe I'm looking for a PostgresSQL tutorial. I start typing "postgres" and one of the bookmarks I forgot about from several months back appears. This approach has ended up saving me a lot of time over the years. Another cool thing is when a bookmark pops up when I'm searching that brings back memories. If the site is still up, I get a free trip down memory lane :)
My collection is at least 9 years old now. I've been maintaining the same Firefox database over the years by migrating it manually from version to version. Now it's seamless thanks to Firefox Sync. I get my bookmarks on my PC, laptop, and my phone. I have an Xmarks account as a backup, and for cases when I prefer to use Chrome.
In case people are not aware of this, prepending a * to your query will make Firefox search _only_ in your bookmarks:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.match.url
https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Basic-Browsing/Awesome-Bar-Se...
Same here. Sometimes you find something really useful but you forget to bookmark (or in my case: add to pinboard). Then a few days later I realize and after a couple of minutes googling to no effect I start typing the parts I remember and FF narrows down until I find it. It also let me search for stuff that google at least until recently would ignore.
Recently used the bookmark-keyword thingy, pretty good BUT I'm still used to remembering URLs :p
Heck, one of the reason I'm not migrating to Chrome is... Bookmark shortcut key [alt]+[b] combined with js bookmarklet
e.g: remove floating div, press [alt]+[b] -> [3] done
This is probably the absolute worst way to handle bookmarking but as long as sync ver 1.1 is still functional I will probably keep doing it, sadly. I've at least given up sorting with folders and labels and just rely on the search in Fx.
I have no idea what happened, it just forgot all my history. Everything else was still there, just the history.
With a paid feature called an archival account, Pinboard stores an actual copy of each bookmarked article, kind of like your own private Wayback Machine. It provides full text search over these articles.
I frequently save articles that I read so that I can refer to them later. It doesn't happen often, but once in a while I will desire to access an article that I read a few months or years later, and I find Pinboard well worth the value for making it possible for me to actually identify the article and retrieve its content regardless of whether the original link is still around.
I find this especially useful because it is my habit to collect citations for various facts. When I find myself making a claim in conversation, I really want to be able to access the original source where I learned about the fact, and provide the evidence to back it up. Or to review the source to confirm that my memory of it is accurate. Or sometimes I want to share a useful article explaining some topic with a colleague or friend.
I do occasionally use the browser bookmarks a sort of clipboard or working set, for 5-10 links at a time. I use Google Chrome and it syncs bookmarks between my devices.
I only have two Firefox bookmarks really.
1. Tag something as to-read in my pinboard (i.e. keeps them private by default) [0]:
javascript:q=location.href;p=document.title;void(t=open('https://pinboard.in/add?later=yes&noui=yes&jump=close&url='+encodeURIComponent(q)+'&title='+encodeURIComponent(p)+'&tags='+encodeURIComponent("%s"),'Pinboard','toolbar=no,width=100,height=100'));t.blur();
I add a keyword 'pi' to the bookmark and then just type pi tag1 tag2
and it saves the current page to pinboardThe other one was a brief exchange with Eric Meyer about a quick way to search from your address bar on the wayback machine [1]:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/%S
Again add a keyword 'w' and then just type in your address bar: w example.com
[0]: https://pinboard.in/u:ianchanningI like the idea of pinboard. I want to copy it. But, I also want to be lazy.
Instead I (ab)use bookmarks as a way to increase the weight of URLs in chrome's navigation bar autocomplete/suggestion algorithm.
e.g. If you find that you're going to a site's homepage and clicking three times, instead once you get to the actual page you want, bookmark it. You can even give it a more memorable name, like "standup hangout" and then watch it autocomplete from the address bar next time you start to type the URL.
*Forgot to mention the best part: Backend pools these full-text documents, cleans and parses for NLP, then generates meaningful tags, and organizes documents in an auto generated folder hierarchy which is based on word2vec/doc2vec and content clusters. Whole thing runs on a dedicated server with two 1070 GTX video cards for the NLP work which is training and re-evaluating constantly as new content pours in.
Altogether it was 2-3 years of work.
As others have said, most things can easily be searched as needed. But I was using bookmarks as placeholders, saying "I wanted to read x later", in most cases... sometimes other things.
So I started treating bookmarks as various categories of todos. I do have a reference folder, but it has less than a hundred items. I often use those only passively -- i.e. when typing into the address bar, the starred link will come up first.
All the other links are sorted into categories such as "files to download", "new articles", "new buyables" and so forth.
Now that I think of Bookmarks as deferred work, it has changed a lot of habits. My total number of bookmarks has slowly dropped, and I tend to handle more stuff as it comes, or not at all -- or at least to be more conscious of bookmarks as a cost.
An unexpected benefit has been a feeling of mental satisfaction, after closing a lot of semi-forgotten, open loops. I now think a big unorganized pile of bookmarks can represent a real liability, whereas if you actually go through all those links and delete the weaker ones you get a concentrated pile of goodness. You hit a point where you'd rather read your remaining bookmarks than most news feeds.
sometimes I make use of the features "open all bookmarks in this folder".
other times I use the bookmark to (as somebody else mentioned already) weight consideration of sites I'm interested in getting results from.
aside: at hackreactor, I worked with some folks on the beginnings of a chrome extension to grab your bookmarks, analyze the content of each site, and suggest new bookmarks when you open a new tab. the suggestions part was working already by the time I came around. then I got a job and that pretty much fell out of priority... heh.
I help my parents and my kids work with bookmarks but I have none myself; and I was beginning to think that bookmarks were primarily used by non-technical people. I guess I was wrong!
Everything I need is a simple URL (like, my bank: usaa.com - why would I bookmark that?) or a quick Google search away. If I come across a deep link that's so important that I want to keep it, I email myself the link along with maybe a short description, and it will be searchable forever.
My lack of bookmarks fits with the rest of my "online personality". I have 14,183 threads in my work email inbox and I do not file emails into folders like most of my colleagues. I do not have the desire or the time to manage email folders or browsing bookmarks.
Also, the fact that I browse in a "clean" browser instance in SELinux that saves no history from instance to instance probably contributes to my lack of bookmark use.
But these days it worries me to say that I just visit the same three websites over and over. Aggregation websites with links and content.
Sometimes I find myself staring at the url bar not being able to think of anything to do because I've visited my three websites already.
Of course besides those three aggregators there are sites like google and stackexchange that I visit indirectly. And any blogs, forum and such that I might find through google.
Very handy, and it also protects somewhat against linkrot.
I've tied it to a hotkey to copy any bit that is highlighted to the currently open scrapbook. (shift-ctrl-b) without further notifications or interaction other than the keystroke. Super quick and it doesn't get in the way of continued reading.
Well I've marked a ton of urls and rarely revisit :( It's like having a camera, take photos and forget them forever. It's a tool to help you forget things, not to remember, sadly!
[1] http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/17/0408/h_1491614673_38...
It's very simple, no javascript and just a tiny bit of CSS.
Any time I want to update it, add a link, etc. I just use a text editor.
My data belong either offline or on serverspace I control myself. There's nothing especially secret about it, but like my email (going back more than twenty years), I wouldn't dream of storing data like that online outside my own control.
The bookmarking, by the way, used to take place in Firefox. The ongoing self-immolation of that once mighty browser has recently sent me to the Pale Moon camp. And it's like coming home. I couldn't be happier, running on various Linux'es on the household machinery. The Chrome/Chromium world hegemony is one of those sad, scary things I shall never understand.
As far as native bookmarks, I don't like that browsers have kind of black boxed their bookmarks and require individual proprietary cloud sync for these things (I realize Firefox has a self hosted option, but it's kind of outdated and last I checked the documentation was spotty. Even then it's only FF).
I know there's also the Netscape Bookmark Format which is kind of sketch, but at least it's something. I tried writing something that exported on close, I'd sync them myself, then imported on open, but it was pretty hacky (edit: also browsers exports are often very different so there was some normalization there that was fragile). There should be a way to setup an endpoint to natively sync this stuff with an open protocol and then all your bookmarks on all clients look the same. If you don't like that service, export someplace else and change your endpoint. Browsers should just be boxes for structured content.
To take things a step further, I'm not entirely sure how I'd function without them.
(I'm sure I'd find a way, but it would be an adjustment and a loss)
Firefox's fuzzy searching in the URL bar makes bookmarks awesome. My "workflow":
1. Bookmark anything I might need later by clicking the bookmark button. It presents a little tooltip-like popup that lets me edit the title and tags if I want to.
2. Sometimes I edit the title/tags and sometimes I don't. I make this call based on a quick judgement call on whether the default will allow me to find the article later. Suppose the article title is "MySQL Adds Froitz-Based Blammo Filtering." Well, that should suffice. But if the title is merely "10 Awesome New MySQL Features" then I might want to edit the title/tags to mention something about "Froitz-Based Blammo Filtering" if that's what I'm interested in. [1]
3. Then I usually never use the bookmark ever again.
4. BUT, sometimes I do. And Firefox's fuzzy match implementation lets me type "mysql froitz" and get a match on this bookmark 100% of the time. Chrome's matching is stupider & I'm not sure about Safari. Safari makes adding bookmarks less convenient than FF or Chrome so I assume finding them is harder. (Maybe it's not, I don't know)
I don't know about Firefox's bookmarking performance characteristics. But, I know that I've been adding lots of bookmarks forever and it "just works" and it feels instance. The fact that I've never had to think about it beyond that point is a compliment of the highest order. That's one of the many reasons why I remain a dedicated Firefox supporter.
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[1] This is just a theoretical example, of course. MySQL does not actually receive new features, awesome or otherwise.
I've got a fair degree of organization with folders and sub-folders but still spend way too much time trying to locate a specific bookmark. I've learned to edit the subject line because often you're bookmarking something called 'home' or a cryptic Github path.
Firefox's bookmark manager is very primitive, though, and I've long been meaning to migrate my bookmarks over to org-mode in emacs, where I have much more powerful searching, metadata, editing, linking, commenting, restructuring, and navigating options.
1) I have a set of bookmarks specialized for search. Chrome can do this without bookmarks, but Firefox needs them. I'm talking about bookmarks like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=%s&tbm=isch
Note the %s in the middle, that's where queries go. When you save this as a bookmark and add a keyword to it ("gg" in my case), you can then search images on Google like this:
- Alt-d (jump to url bar)
- gg fluffy kittens
I have a few dozen of these: Google, G images, G translate, G maps, local maps, Wikipedia English, Wikipedia Czech, various dictionaries, whois, wolfram alpha, grammar check, YouTube, Maven search... You get the idea.
2) A huge curated collection of bookmarks to Java libraries. Something similar to all those awesome-java collections that are lately popping up, but more complete, in my browser, indexed for search and neatly grouped into like a hundred folders.
I also still 'star' interesting links and categorize them into folders. Very handy to have Chrome sync the bookmarks across all of my machines.
For work, absolutely. I have a couple of top level directories on my bookmark bar:
KeyLinks
InterestingTech
PrevWork
CurrWork-<2-3 words describing topic of work>-<Date started>
Under KeyLinks I keep well...key links, like the links to the wiki entry on how to setup dev environments, link to the Holiday calendar, link to the Jira dashboard showing my team's sprints, link to the company roadmap, etc. Pretty much just links that I'll have to refer to periodically.
Under InterestingTech are articles or things of interest I stumble upon on my day to day, but that I don't have time right now to look into.... This one is honestly a bit of a bottomless pit at this point...
Under CurrWork-* I keep all the links related to the work I'm doing right now. That means wiki entries related to it, StackOverflow links I had to use to fix something, Jira tickets, Jenkin jobs, internal web-app links, code review link, etc. You name it. If it's in any way related to my current work, and it's a site, it's there.
And when I'm done with the current 'CurrWork-*', I remove the leading 'CurrWork-' and move it to the bottom of PrevWork.
I have an awful memory, but this in combination with an emacs org-mode file for each 'CurrWork' iteration I have, I manage to be able to refer to things I've worked on in the past when people ask. After they give me a minute or two to get my bearings of course.
My girlfriend does make extensive use of it for all sorts of things.
I think my mom uses it as well. My brother and dad I'm not sure about. Not sure what that says for a confidence interval, but many people still do. Then again, I'm sure there must be clusters of people (when clustering by who knows who) that never learned it's there, or who choose not to use it.
All of my bookmarks are resources, something for me to read or use at a later time. Some are for things I want to learn, some are for things I knew but have lost to time, and others are just.. out there. Like this: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm I have no idea why I bookmarked that (or when).
Another example: This week I decided to learn Rust. I was listening to a podcast and the host mentioned rustbyexample.com and I visited the site and realized previous me had bookmarked it thinking I would decided to learn Rust at some point and it would be a nice resource.
Maybe something that would look at my recent history and say Hey X has been in your bookmarks for months and it's related to all the Y pages you've been visiting.
None of them are organized, I'd pay for something to automatically organize them.
I have hundreds of bookmarks, covering dozens of categories of research and reading. One of the largest subcategories includes hundreds of references that I may or may not need for future projects including software (stackoverflow questions, tutorials, bug solutions, framework and API references, optimization articles, in-depth guide articles, and so on), woodworking, economic/governmental/civic/legal research, fitness, electrical engineering and general circuity/wiring, real estate, recipes, piano repair, audio production, and so on. These are all intended to be kept until needed, most likely indefinitely.
Then there's a category for more temporary things that I need in the moment and am unlikely to need again, including news/blog articles I haven't gotten around to reading yet, solutions for bugs that I need to fix, torrents I haven't gotten around to downloading, and collections of references for small, specific projects that I won't need again afterwards.
So basically I use Chrome bookmarks as my personal address book for "things on the vast internet which I wish to return to eventually."
For major things I use daily, like youtube or gmail or facebook, I don't bother bookmarking them-- for those I just use the address bar's semi-intelligent autosuggest....Ctrl+L to go to address bar, then I just type g and hit enter, or y and hit enter, or f, etc. The only website I need to type out beyond 2 letters is twitter/twitch.
I guess this may sound odd, but Chrome has begun to feel like a natural part of my mind. The bookmarks and my gmail are an extension of my memory. My interactions with the net are an extension of my thought processes. I have seen other people make similar remarks about their phones.
I find them extremely useful for tutorials/learning new stuff which I know I need/want to learn but just don't have the time at the moment. Whether or not I end up coming back to them is a discussion for another day ;)
Most of my bookmarks are via HN.
Basically I just add the properties URL and BROWSER to any entry I want to be a bookmark. I have the numpad key 4 bound to a command that opens the url (works either in the org file buffer itself, or from an agenda view). I also have the numpad key 1 bound to an agenda search for the tag :bm: (searching for a property is too slow), so I can easily get a list of all bookmarks, which can then be filtered by tags, category, top-level headline and regexes.
For anything I want to remember for later, or keep for reference material, I clip it to Evernote instead. Find that much more useful, as normally when you're looking for a piece of reference material it's going to be able to remember some keywords from it than the title or where you filed the bookmark. Also means you can easily reference it even if the page is missing or changed in the future.
Using it I hit Ctrl+M (the shortcut to open it) and then I have my top 20 sites key bound. So HN is Ctrl+M -> h. All my other bookmarks can be accessed via a search feature which you can tab or "/" to get to on opening the extension. I hate lists/folders so my bookmarks are all hidden away behind the search function. The extension is built for either the mouse or keyboard so I have a lot of flexibility in how I interact with it.
The site for it is: www.devmark.io
Second is Favourites (like bookmark bar), I can access it from blank page. I'm saving webpages, that I visit often, news, important forums, etc. Also webpages, that I'm using currently in work (e.g. Postgres documentation, if I'm working with it right now.
Rest is just organized by topic list of webpages that I could use later. I'm not using it that often, but sometimes it might be handy.
I started doing this after accumulating a huge index of bookmarks spread across saved.io, Evernote, Google Bookmarks, iCloud, Firefox, Opera, txt files, Google Spaces and the other dozen or so bookmarking/collaborative knowledge sharing platforms showcased on Product Hunt.
I'm surprised there's no digital equivalent to the Hoarders TV show. I suppose thousands of bookmarks are less impressive than a garage full of old newspapers and rats.
Why keep resources in a unique silo? You wouldn't keep all your PDFs/Word/rtf/&c in a "<ext> manager app", so why do URLs have to be kept in one?
Also, this way they all get backed up since I keep all work docs on my network drive.
I'm surprised no one else follows this pattern, but I've never seen anyone else use it, nor have I won over any converts via its sheer awesome factor <shrug>.
FYI, works in FF and Chrome, but not Opera. (Bummer, because I like Opera generally, and it's my default Android browser.)
I mean, Google is usually strong on that from with labels in Gmail, Keep but for some reason they never implemented that in their bookmarks. It would makes more sense than using folders IMO.
Also for the habit of reading/skimming articles and often hopping from one URL to another, I use One Tab. Super efficient to collect links in one page: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbo... On the negative side, my work PC has over 800 URLs and home PC about 1500+
I also bookmark articles that I think I'll reference in the future, that supports or contradicts something I believe strongly.
I used to use Pocket a lot to do similar things, but categorising, and browsing the saved links was a little too cumbersome.
Plus I like that I can search just within my plethora of bookmarks if I want to reference something I know I saved a year ago. [0]
[0] - https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/02/quickly-search-just-ch...
For personal machines, I've got about 5 machine+OS combinations, with 2-3 browsers on each that I use for various things. I chose not to set up sync accounts in any of the browsers (I've already got too many damn accounts to manage, thank you!). So I sometimes save a bookmark if I'm in the middle of a long series of pages about something, as a sometimes-completely-literal "bookmark".
Reason for this is that I love saving pages that I encounter. I use Evernote Web Clipper a lot, but it frequently fails to keep the styling perfect. Secondly, a lot of archivers can't save pages behind an authentication layer.
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I use Bookmark Box to sync with other browsers by way of Dropbox. Its not perfect, but it works.
For the rest of the Bookmarks bar I have my most common links -- a few spreadsheets (in Drive), some web apps, and a folder for forums I frequent. I also have a bookmarket for Pepperplate, which I use on a regular basis.
Organized in ~150 folders all with subfolders. Ditched the bookmark services when Chrome started syncing data across devices. There are three features I would love:
1. The search box in the manager does a full text search of the content on the bookmarked page instead of just the title (at the time it was marked, not updated).
2. The ability to search by URL with regex.
3. Show the date I bookmarked the page.You can Access, Search, Import, and Export bookmarks from: "chrome://bookmarks/" URL and Pressing "CTRL+D" give you option to save to folder instantly.
Sometimes when I don't remember the bookmark folder location for example(https://news.ycombinator.com), I simply type something like 'news' or 'ycom' and chrome will show me some predictions which will be combination of Bookmark, Google search, and History with different icons or text.
Currently typing 'ycom' shows me five option 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/ with Star Icon. 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/news?p=2 with History Icon. 3. ycombinator (Google Search) 4-5. More History Link.
and If I don't remember anything I just type some random words on Google to get the web link!
I also use Google Keep Extension: 'https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-keep-chrome... to organize bookmark easily with labels and colors.
Apart from that, I also use browser bookmarks for links I want to (or have to) view in the near future. It acts as a constant reminder since it's always visually present.
I use Pocket for articles/links I can afford to view during my free time.
I do however use bookmarks on my laptop to point to locally installed document such as the full python library doc, in order to be able to access those when offline (eg: in a train).
It's also useful to bookmark in browser because the address bar gives priority to your bookmarks over auto-complete and history.. So it's much easier to access those sites too.
P.S. I organize them by folder, so it's most likely design -> landing pages -> dark -> bookmark or personal -> finance -> bookmark, etc.
I capture stuff to read in Pocket. If I eventually find the link to be valuable (news: almost never; how-tos: much more often), I move it into a Google Keep "PostIt".
The value-add is that I can add pics, notes, links to Dropbox docs, etc in the same PostIt, and organize them as I see fit.
Macintosh-only stand-alone local database for URLs; Costs $25; url-manager.com. I've been using it for years...have 10s of thousands of bookmarks...it's where I keep all my research...has saved me many times. All data in one local file (or Dropbox)...easily portable; no annual fee.
Click on the icon in the menu bar to save the current web page Title and URL; optional field for Notes permits you to add keywords or large excerpts from the site or article.
Organize the database/outline by making folders/sub-folders. Fast db search;
Mac OS X app : Customizable toolbar, standard Window Menu and Fonts Panel, Font Smoothing, Sheets and Drawer Windows, Cocoa Status Item and support for Dropbox. Includes Yosemite Share extension and Spotlight importer.
Import and Export : URL Manager Pro can import from and export to Safari, Firefox, Chrome, OmniWeb, Camino, iCab, Mozilla and Netscape. It lets you 'harvest' bookmarks by importing XML (XBEL), HTML and text files for bookmarks and URLs. Export entire db or any one folder to HTML or text format.
My only other use is for groups of pages that I'm referring to or want to come back to as part of a project. I usually delete them after a few weeks.
For long term bookmarks I use pinboard.in
Just like aliasing commands in the terminal, you can alias web pages in Chrome's address bar. So, when I type "je" in my omnibar it has an autocomplete option "Jenkins", and pressing enter will take me to the URL I set for the Jenkins home page.
This feature is poorly named "search engines", and yes, it is extensible to putting extra strings at the end of that URL (which could be registered as a search term within that site), but I've been using it for years, and 99% of my use is simply mapping arbitrary strings to arbitrary URLs. It works amazingly for that. No mouse movement digging into bookmark folders required.
http://lifehacker.com/5815291/create-short-aliases-for-frequ...
- tabs I haven't read yet, but I need to restart my browser for some reason, and I want to be sure the tabs won't be lost ; in this case, those bookmarks are disposed of as soon as the browser restarted
- content I'm pretty sure I'll want to read back in a few time
I only use the bookmark bar, so I have to limit what I save. When it gets too big, I clean it up.
I definitely would like some improvements. My "Topics" folder is huge and I don't really need it loaded each time the browser loads. Just save it in the topic and let me find it later. Also, if Chrome has my shortcuts, why doesn't Google highlight those in search results? And maybe auto-link the saved shortcuts to the terms I used when finding them in the first place. There's a lot of meta data in that action - search-search-search, save. Google knows quite a bit of my thought process (via keywords and sequence), so use that.
I also have folders for Work, Blogs and one for improving myself as a developer. I love browser bookmarks, but am not exactly a poweruser, but I would miss them very much if they were taken away.
I use Google Keep to store URLs, typically with some note, for example: * "Specialized Sirrus bike rear derailleur. Model number: DO20. URL: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0047D192E/ " * 2015-03-01: Visited doctor. They referred me to physio, and told me to read http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/con... for exercises/stretches to relieve pain."
Google Keep supports tagging and search, so I can usually find things. For things I want to read later, I either put it in Pocket or use Google Keeps' reminder functionality.
Chrome integration looks decent (save web pages as an image), but Firefox integration is lacking.
Just google everything when I need to find something. In the past I was using bookmarks to track blogs I follow but these days there is too much content. I just google/HN search stuff when I need to find something. I tried going back to bookmarking stuff/save for later but I just never got time to go back to the them.
Structurally my bookmarks are an ever growing list, they all go into the bookmarks menu in firefox. I occasionally tag them too. Most bookmarks are part of my "online library", I keep them so that if I ever want to send a link to sth. I liked to someone, use them in an article, or maybe read again. I have a separate read-it-later list in an Org-mode file.
Some of the bookmarks are shortcuts, mostly to different dictionaries in WordReference, to Collins english dictionary, and various websites I browse often, like Reddit, HN, my school's, and my own website that I check every-so-often when I upload sth. new.
The Bookmarks Bar really has the only ones I regularly use though. Wish it was 2 rows.
My most desired feature in Chrome is being able to right-click a link and add it to my bookmarks. Presently, I have to open the link in a new tab/window (using right-click, then T or W) then go to the tab/window, click on the bookmark star, then close the page (i.e. before it finishes loading). If I want to avoid loading a page I don't want to look at right now, I'll right-click on the link, then E to copy the link to the clipboard, then go to a new tab, bookmark it, right-click on the new blank bookmark link, then E to open the editor dialog, type in some suitable title, tab to the address text box, paste in the URL, then click Close. Either way, it just isn't simple.
It's gone, now, and I've never seen its equivalent.
These days, I use an extension that saves a local copy of the page. As others have mentioned: Linkrot.
But it's not nearly as quick or convenient to return to a page as it was in PowerMarks. Although, the extension I use does have search -- manually triggered, and thereupon taking some time to initially build the index.
But I end up saving more "read later" stuff in it, as opposed to just reference links. So it ends up being a bit noisier, and size means I end up with multiple stores having multiple indexes.
I save my bookmarks in a text file, commit it and push it to a remote Git repo. I have this Git repo cloned on every system I use. Since the Vim editor is part of my daily workflow, visiting one of the URLs in the text file is a simple matter of pressing `gx` while the cursor is on a URL.
This is useful to me because I have this repo cloned on every system I use for various reasons, e.g. it contains my daily notes, productivity scripts, etc. So it makes sense to keep all my bookmarks also in this repo. Also having the bookmarks in a text file provides me the flexibility to add arbitrary notes/comments for each URL I save. The fact that I don't have to use the mouse and I can use Vim search or motion commands to find a bookmark is a bonus.
With the intelligent address bars of the browsers, you can search and find for most of the recent stuff that you used, and even sometimes very old stuff.
I don't use bookmarks anymore, and I feel like the bookmark bar is most of the time a useless distraction.
If there is things I really want to keep, I post it in a public Shaarli[1] instance where I force myself to use tags, description and informative title.
[1] https://github.com/shaarli/Shaarli
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If any Chrome Developer is listening:
It will be amazing if there is some form of autocomplete to specify the folder for the bookmark. Right now on Mac, finding the folder in the drop-down is very hard. To find a folder, typing needs be fast. I almost never find the right folder, if the folder name contains a space. As after the space it starts to match from the first letter in the folder names if you take a brief pause to start typing the next letter.
I bookmark most pages I view as unsorted bookmarks (especially helpful for news sites that have essentially no way to ever find old articles) and then ones I am more interested in I add to another folder that I occasionally divide into smaller folders (to avoid needing to scroll) and put all of these smaller folders ordered chronologically in a folder to the right of the tabs. I usually search the bookmarks first when looking for something, but I don't tag and too often neither the title nor url contain the right keywords for me to find it.
I would really love a more unified bookmark/history system along the lines of Vivaldi's calendar history, but being able to create icons that will flag the current page (to be able to look through just the more interesting history) and other icons that would cause the current page to be saved to a particular folder as a bookmark. Then at most one click would reproduce my current system other than occasional reorganization. Since I can't predict in advance most of what I want to refer to again, I want it to take as little time as possible to bookmark things. I liked the star in Firefox better when it didn't pop up the folder selection unless you clicked it twice.
1. Autocompletion: for any website I use regularly I just write a substring of the url or Title (Firefox does this especially well). This covers probably 70% of my browsing.
2. Google. This might take slightly longer in case I want to find a specific article I had read some time ago, but it still seems less effort that having to bother with bookmarks, in my experience: either you have a very long list of unsorted bookmarks, in witch it's hard to search, or you have to spend time sorting them into sub-folders.
Now that I think of it, the following would be a very useful Google feature: +1 an url so that it becomes much more likely to bubble to the top in future searches.
For reference material, I built something sort of vaguely like pinboard.in into a home-brew app that I run for myself. It handles search, a modified form of tagging, and a timeline-like view, and I get to it with a JS bookmark (tada) that lives in-browser and sends selected text as a search.
(The app itself is a ridiculous mess, having grown as a sort of cancer in a different app I wrote for myself that now does several unrelated things. Maybe someday I'll pick that crap back apart into something releasable.)
I also have bookmarks at the root level for things that I will Definitely See Tomorrow™, which I never erase, because hey, They could be important.
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1. Archival. If I like something and will need to refer to it/revisit it later (more than a month, say) I will bookmark it.
2. Frequently used pages sit neatly on my bookmarks bar so that I can get to the websites I want quickly just by glancing at their favicons.
Organisation:
I primarily organize in 3 levels.
Top level: This is where frequently used stuff goes. I have configured FF to only show favicons for these so they take little space. eg. HN, GitHub, Outlook, Reddit and Bugzilla.
Second level: This is where things go for archival. I have bookmark folders at the top level that represent a category. eg. Books, Movies, Tech, Coding. Each of those can be further categorised. An example is my Tech folder is broken up into Articles, Blogs, Podcasts, Material (projects, GH repos etc.).
The void: This is the final level or organisation and is just a catch-all folder called Sort-These-Out where all stuff I'm too lazy to organise (or which isn't well defined right now, or things I'll get back on another machine maybe (Linux vs Windows)) goes. It currently has 13 bookmarks. Not bad.
PS: Did you know you can send tabs across Firefox instances on different machines by right clicking and hitting "Send Tab to Device"? The best thing ever.
EDIT: Forgot these two features.
1. Keyword search. Kind of like the bang query syntax from DuckDuckGo you can set up a keyword to search a single website by creating a bookmark. So I can go 'gh mycoolrepo' for searching on GitHub.
2. Tags. Firefox allows you to tag bookmarks. It helps me a lot when, for example, I want to find all bookmarks related to vim (but don't necessarily have vim in the page title). I'm working on an autotagger that integrates into Firefox to save me from having to tag them myself.
[1]: http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Firefox-Keywords (See method 2 for easier variant.
A problem comes up when searching for bookmarks that don't have keywords in their titles. I use a WebExtension [0] to update my bookmarks with website descriptions, increasing the odds of finding them.
I use browser bookmarks for pages I visit every day, or for pages that I intend to view again in the near future. An icon on a toolbar right on top of the browser is much easier to access than a link stored in a third-party app or website.
Of course I could just keep all those pages open in background tabs all the time, but I don't like clutter. Having too many open tabs also consumes a nontrivial amount of CPU and RAM. Bookmarks are also safer in case the browser crashes and fails to restore all the open tabs.
I use Pinboard for pages that I might view again at some time in the future, for research or some other purpose. The archive feature is very useful for this.
I have so many Chrome bookmark folders that I don't know where anything is. The only way to find one is to just search in the Bookmark Manager. It sucks.
It also doesn't help that my preferred browser on different devices is a different browser.
I hope you are asking this question because you want to do something about this State of Affairs. I would gladly enjoy a good service that solves this problem in some innovative way that my brain cannot come up with.
1 - Pages I want to autocomplete so I don't have to remember and type the full address or verify that I'm on the true site for my bank and not a phishing site
2 - Content to do something about in the future. Stuff to read later, stuff to download to my local machine, etc.
3 - Resources that I want to remember exist and be able to find. For example, I've got a page saved that produces blank graphics in whatever dimensions you want for use in stuff like web design. Forgetting what it is called, I could look it up in my bookmarks pretty quickly instead of having to open photoshop and create such graphics manually
For longer term bookmarks I use pinboard.
I use a middle-ground for a few things: I may bookmark, say, news sites in pinboard under the "news" category. Every tag and combination of tags on pinboard has an RSS feed; I bookmark the "news" tag's RSS feed in Firefox, and everything tagged shows up.
The RSS is not for the content of the target sites, it's for what goes in and out of the news tag. So I might add another news site to my pinboard news tag, and vi-ola, it shows up in my Firefox RSS bookmark. Delete something from the pinboard tag and it's gone in Firefox.
I use Chrome. I like the fact that the bookmarks are synced to my Android phone and work computer. That way they are available whenever I want to use computer.
I proposed a new mental model using infinite history. You can see some animated examples here:
I never have to worry about them going away and I can organize them into folders any way I like. Plus, they can be exported, imported, and shared. I use Firefox, so accessing the bookmarks is as simple as using a drop down menu. I actually use a bookmark tool bar for my ost frequently visited sites. This way, when I want to go to HN, for instance, I just click a single button and I'm there.
I've looked at other bookmarking software/services, and I still find that plain old browser bookmarks still fit every use case.
I am currently running Bookmark Checker (chrome extension) and did set the parameters to "error connect" and at this very moment it is reporting : "Bookmark check status: Total bookmarks : 2238 of 3413 error connect: 2117"
so many dead links :(
I did not know about pinboard and I am really tempted to give it a try so I can do a full html archive without the fear of losing again 2000+ bookmarks in 5 years from now.
For most sites I use keyboard shortcuts + the autocomplete in chrome. Aka to visit hackernews: Ctrl+L and then "news.y" and hit enter.
We maintain the bookmarks in yaml and generate the html to import into firefox/chrome/ie. Script: https://github.com/psiegman/bookmark-generator
(At the moment I have 519 bookmarks in 73 folders)
I stopped categorizing my bookmarks into folders a long time ago, however. They just end in a single folder. Though, I love to use 'tags', which I use for important stuff, that I want to distinguish from other important stuff.
It looks beautiful and works well. I just have to maintain a mental map of what general color a website's icon is and while my mouse is gravitating in that direction I'm mentally retrieving the actual icon. It's a great visual memory exercise in the beginning but eventually you wonder how you did it any other way.
If I come across articles I like I save them to instapaper instead of bookmark.
For work...I've pretty much created my own wiki of bookmarks using OneNote. Employer uses SharePoint and some pages won't display or work correctly in Chrome, so I use IE for work intranet. So instead of bookmarks I have a notebook and put tags in the notebook for easy searching and I can put a good description of the site.
I don't use the bookmark tabs, and I'm not regularly using what I have in my bookmarks, they're more for safekeeping, and to remind myself aobut things.
Plus it's fun to take a look through the bookmarks and rediscover things.
- pinboard. Been using it for many years
- DuckDuckGo's interrobang search to quickly access pin board bookmarks / maps / etc.
- the browser URL bars own autocomplete
- this may have happened also since until recently, I used different browsers on mobile (Firefox) vs desktop (safari)
I make sure I use a descriptive sentence when I save them.
They're useful to me because the people creating the pages don't know about SEO and Google fucking sucks at giving me the pages I need unless I use weird contorted search phrases or remember the exact name of the document.
I have 12 icons in my bookmark toolbar that I use daily. I have a few that I don't use very often.
I have in my bookmark bar the most used sites. I have a few folders for topics and for work bookmarks.
Bookmarks help me to close a tab. It gives me the feeling that i still can read it but i don't have to do so now. Sometimes, depending on the content, i pocket it instead of using a bookmark for it.
It has something called Links, where all URLs that you added are sorted by date. You can save a URL quickly with keyboard shortcut (CMD+D).
I also organize the links that I frequently visit by topics in the Lists section.
Edit: Although, I realized that just full-text searching through bookmarks won't pop the most relevant links to the top.
If it is an interesting web site with good articles, I subscribe to the RSS feed.
My bookmarks stay synced between my iPhone and Chrome on Windows using Apple's iCloud Chrome plug in. It stays synced between Chrome on different computers using my Chrome account.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bookmarks%2B%2B/li...
I will definitely write a short review, but I need 10 people to view the link to help me access it first: https://stash.ai/landing?source=f520deef
Also admin stuff like webhost control panel, bugtracker, iTunes Connect etc.
Arranged in favourites bar in folders by category.
Saved articles go in pinboard.in however.
Mostly just browser history, or I'll ddg it again as a fall-back. Doesn't work as well in Chrome (or im doing it wrong) but FF awesome bar seems to pull up the links I need within a few keystrokes the majority of the time.
I never save anything for later, I either read it or forget it. I only regularly visit a few dozen sites, so usually the site is completed in the URL field after 1 character (such as "n" to load HN).
= Or =
Zim wiki with With copy paste urls "Copy URL + Title" (Chrome) "Multiple tab-handler" (Firefox)
I would bookmark a link in Chrome just because it automatically shows up (in type ahead) when I search for similar keywords in the address bar. I have too many bookmarks to categorize and remember.
About 5-10 most used links are simple 1-click buttons, rest is sorted into folders.
Most of these aren't content websites, but rather different webapps, or links into webapps (like direct link into some intranet forms that are used maybe 2-3x per month)
There is an opportunity to do something better than bookmarks, but not likely as a business.
Bookmarks bar: bookmarklets for pinboard, ffound, whatfont, etc. Plus bookmarks for Toggl and certain other work-related services.
Bookmarks proper: one folder per client, with links to documentation, issue tracker, etc.
Mostly I save bookmarks to close a tab, doubtful I will ever look at it again. Mostly those are for tech research.
I also use "open tabs on other devices" extensively.
I don't use browser bookmarks/favorites, but I have created and use zeerka.com browser homepage that keeps all the links I need, accessible in any browser, taggable, searchable.
Stuff I want archived for reference or I want to read later goes to Pinboard.in.
right now the only browser based bookmark i'm having is a bookmarklet that takes me to my own bookmark store ( see https://github.com/grafoo/webdmp if you're interested.)
And also to keep track of important endpoints when I work for a new client (I am freelancer).
Also, I used mozbackup, to backup my profile (all of them, including configuration, bookmark, history, etc).
I used firefox for my primary browser.
What I really wish for is a way to save all the important aspects of a page for future viewing and organise it in a particular way.
It's bookmarks on steroids, saved for offline, taggable (no assumption of organizing data in a tree), and synced.
Probably the only useful Evernote feature.
1 - important instant recall, across the top of my browser is a interface bar littered with favicons (and no text). I know the name of every site on that list, but don't ever want to type them.
2 - approximate match/personal search. Modern browsers will autofill your url bar as you type things associated with the metadata of a bookmark. This offloads the memory of things i found interesting 8 months ago.
I use Safari's reading list extensively.
I also keep snippets of things I want to keep inside my emacs org-mode folder so it's instantly accessible.
1. work; internal websites can't be found on google and i can never remember them. 2. to clean up open tabs related to a task that i have to postpone; i bookmark them en masse and come back to them later; discard when done. 3. i have a dozen or so websites i visit daily; right click the folder of bookmarks and open them all at once.
This service automatically indexed page, get relevant results from your information space, delete duplicates and non-active urls.
This is alpha-version and it would be awesome if you give feedback and ideas what we need to improve.
I have a pinboard account but always end up just dragging links to the bookmarks toolbar.
I now use [Papaly](http://papaly.com). It is really well made. I have my Bookmarks on different Boards. You can view share your bookmark boards with the community if you wish.
Never thought about the following (search vs. bookmarks/history) until the HN discussion last week, though I have always typed in google.com before searching just because browser search money seems like a bad incentive:
There is a reason for that – as a rule, browsers don’t really want you to use history. They want you to search and find things multiple times because search royalties are part of their business model.
A couple of full-text-of-every-page-visited Chrome add-ons textually equivalent to a single-computer version of https://pinboard.in/ $25/yr hosted "archiving and full-text bookmark search" subscription (unfortunately for me I don't like Google/Chrome/anti-privacy enough to use as my main browser):
https://github.com/lengstrom/falcon "Chrome extension for full text history search"
http://fetching.io/ "your own personal Google -- a search engine for all the web pages you've seen"
https://worldbrain.io/ "Full-Text Search the Pages you Visited and Bookmarked"
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/recoll-indexe... "copies the web pages you visit to the Recoll web indexing queue"
Source: Vivaldi browser v1.8 released, with calendar-style browsing history | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13984122 (last week)
Also mentioned: Tree Style Tabs Firefox add-on "shows my tabs in the context I opened them from" | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
GraphiTabs Chrome add-on | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/graphitabs/dcfclem...
Edit: Added intro w/ my own anecdata.
Another idea: custom browsers per-site-you-use, per HN user megous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13226170
For each use case that is not a free browsing I create an electron app, that never executes any code from the web or uses any external style
I usually try to tag my bookmarks but it rarely happens.
The only personal ones I have are news websites and a lunchtime reading folder.
- Things you want easy access to, but have annoying URLs, like your company's wiki page (Solved by Favorites/Bookmarks Bar or Dashboard)
- Things you want to finish looking at later (Solved by Read Later / Reminder)
- Things you want to keep track of, like blogs (Solved by Read Later / Reminder)
- Things you want to be able to find later (Solved by Full Text Search and Tags)
- Something you might want to see again, but not anytime soon (Solved by Personal Archive)
- Something you simply liked or are favoriting (Solved by Personal Archive)
- Note taking / Research (Solved by Tags and Boards)
- Idea inspiration (Solved by Tags and Boards)
- Things you want to show other people (Solved by Social)
- Things you want to get for yourself (Solved by Wishlist)
- Things you want other people to get for you (Solved by Wishlist)
My main problem with using bookmarks was that I rarely went back to them. Normal bookmarks are essentially a personal archive and google search usually finds things much better.
I realized there were a lot of bookmarks I'd like to go back to, I'd just forget about them. Maybe I'd like to read something when I got home from work, or maybe I wanted to check back in a week for an update (or release date), or I wanted to keep a list of items to show someone later (usually funny videos or gifs.) It was pretty difficult to do that no matter how I organized my folders or tagged things.
I eventually built my own bookmark site (https://www.mochimarks.com/landing) with all the features I wanted. The main features (apart from the expected tagging/full text search/browser integration/notes/etc...) were settable/automatic reminders, wishlists, and recommendations. Wishlists let you rank bookmarks. Recommendations could be new stuff from friends or the app could recommend that you look at stuff you liked that you hadn't visited in a while.
After having my app for a while, I've found I use bookmarks a lot more. I mostly use reminders and have a few stuff pop up to check each day. Reminders are killer for me. But when I'm bored I like to sort my wishlists. I don't use tags much... I really only use #Programming, #Interesting (usually really good articles), #Funny, #Music, #Blog, and #ArtBlog. I'll use the recommendation features to check on my blogs and to share links with my friends. I use Read Later a lot, but rarely actually go back and read things later. But when I do, I'm really glad the feature is there.
back in my day...
Some history. I've used bookmarks like anyone else since before IE6 days. When Chrome 1.0 came out, I've switched to it and been using it as my primary browser since. When Chrome added ability to sync (bookmarks and other things), I've started using that.
So for the last 5+ years, I've had all my bookmarks synced between my main computers and mobile devices.
There were 3 stages of how I used bookmarks.
First stage was me trying to organize things into folders, based on content. It seemed to make sense, but didn't really scale well. I ended up not liking my bookmarks after a while because I never actually used existing ones, only added new ones.
The problem with organizing by folders is that they're exclusive. If I run into a new blog I want to bookmark, it would normally go under Blogs. But if it's game related, I have a Game Dev folder that has Blogs inside that.
I feel like labels would work better, since then you can just apply multiple labels to bookmarks and be able to find them more logically.
Eventually, I gave up on that, but realized that I mostly cared about bookmarking things "just in case" and so that they'd show up in Chrome's omnibar when I type or search for things.
So I changed my "add a bookmark" strategy to a simpler one. I created a top-level folder called Stream (inspired by Photo Stream from Apple devices), and it would be just a single place to dump all bookmarks, based on time. Latest ones always end up on the bottom. No trying to organize by content, because organizing by "when this bookmark was added" was actually more meaningful and helpful, but primarily easier.
That worked for a while, but even so, over the last few years I realized I didn't like my bookmark situation. I had hundreds of bookmarks from last few years, and I had forgotten about most of them. It felt like baggage, mental overhead.
So, just a few weeks ago, I set a goal to go through all my bookmarks and delete them. For any bookmark I couldn't delete, I added it to a text file and just organized that in an free form way.
I ended up removing 90% of useless bookmarks. They were either 404, no longer useful or relevant, out of date, or easily findable via Google when I need to look that topic up.
The 10% remaining were high quality things that I actually cared enough to want to keep in a .txt file for now.
So, I went from http://instantshare.virtivia.com:27080/12tdxyh7suc7h.html from last few years, to just http://instantshare.virtivia.com:27080/1f2drzhc3w3hk.txt.
Feeling good about that so far. I'll put the .txt file with my other .txt files for now, and see if there's anything more I wanna do with it later. But for now, it works well enough, and I'm feeling a huge sense of relief from no longer having those bookmarks in my browser.
As a bonus, I now feel better about being able to switch browser I use, and not have to worry about importing/exporting bookmarks. I just don't want to have my bookmarks tied so tightly with the browser I use, it makes sense to keep them externally.
I really like the observation someone here made about bookmarks usually being used as "TODO" items. Articles to read, interesting blog posts to consider going through, etc. I think that really makes sense why it feels bad to have so many unused bookmarks accumulating.
The only thing that actually kind of works for me is to bookmark stuff in "sessions" and then open the all tabs the next time I want to work on something. For instance I was trying something very specific involving deep learning at my job, then I had to do some actual work to prepare an article and I put that DL project aside. So, I make a bookmark folder with all the open tabs and closed the window. Now I got back to that DL experiment opened the all tabs again and that kind of worked for me. But this is not really a reference system, it's just a "sessions" system.
As for the traditional role of bookmarks, I don't think they will ever work for me without a single main thing: Full text search.
Every few months I try to clean the mess my bookmarks have become since I can't find what I need and a few months after everything is a mess again.
The tag or folder system simply just doesn't work for me, I keep too much stuff to check later as ideias and then I can't really find it because I have this folder "check later" where I have dozens of separate ideias and I can't really just find that one idea I had.
The solution seems to be some kind of full text search, where I can have a way to describe in a fuzzy way what I was doing, something like: "python, maps, names, germany" and go back to that post I remember where they where doing some analysis of the "last names of people in germany in different regions" and that I, of course, don't remember the name anymore.
I recon it's a very specific problem that only makes sense for people that think the same way like I do, but I'm also quite sure there are a lot of us like that and that this is the kind of solution that at least would help us a bit using the bookmark system.
@browser developer: don't remove or hide the bookmark feature. Allow me to bookmark the same link in multiple folders. Don't nag me with your cloud sync (no thanks), but add a feature to sync to a private cloud like Owncloud/nextcloud. Don't remove advanced features, don't simplify things without fully understanding the features. RSS support in bookmark-bar is pretty useful.
for example: i have a bookmark that shows me every invoice issued in the past 30 days.