America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books
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Otherwise I find myself zone out of the book, and miss a huge chunk of it, then rewind to the point I thought I missed and rewind too much. Realize I have heard it before and let myself zone out again etc.
I realize how inefficient live lectures are and how much I must have missed through my life.
Live lecture is a total disaster for me now. I don't even bother.
Funny thing is that I was a pretty good student, and was known to be able to drown out things and concentrate for long periods.
The question is: Has the mobile phone changed my attention capacity? Or am I still relatively good, but humans are just bad at concentrating for a long periods and we should never have invented the lecture model?
plow through it fast the first time, with the expectation that you'll come back and read it again later
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2016/01/que...
I wonder if a similar strategy wouldn't work best for watching youtube lectures
just go straight through the first time, with the expectation that you'll need to watch it a few times to truly grasp it
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also the second strategy seems useful too
"2. After finishing the classic, read a good deal of the secondary literature, keeping in mind that you now are looking for answers to some particular questions. That will structure and improve your investigation"
ie - after you've watched a lecture, see if you can find a different source exploring the same topic
sometimes seeing something described in different ways really helps something click
Also, I think the kind of audiobook is important:
1. Fiction usually works best, since narratives and action are easy to follow.
2. Simple non-fiction is worse but still doable (I'm thinking bestseller-type popular nonfiction and narrative history).
3. Nonfiction with technical or conceptually challenging content is the worst, and really requires full undivided attention.
Fucking hell no, please do focus your attention on driving.
Substitute in "riding a bike" for driving, and I bet you do the same.
I've narrowly avoided several accidents because I was able to hear the other vehicle approaching, because I always pay full attention to my surroundings. When the radio is on though, or passengers are talking, it becomes very difficult to notice those types of subtle cues.
For this reason I have an explicit "no talking" rule when I have others in the car with me. Doesn't make me the most popular person when it comes to carpooling, but whatever, I'll take safety over idle chatter anytime.
I disagree on what kind work best, for me "divulgation-level" non-fiction is the one. Think Malcolm Gladwell.
Actual fiction can be complex because it requires attention on who is talking, where they are, whether you're in a time skip or flashbacks etc. Divulgation doesn't.
For example, I've recently listened to The World Until Yesterday[0] and Masters of Doom[1]. They are both reasonably light, they tend to hit the same concepts over and over, there are few "characters", and generally missing 30 seconds of narration has close to zero impact.
But also, I'm fairly sure reading skills is what counts the most. I'm not even sure it's a matter of "being best" as it is a matter of a reader just sounding better for a specific person.
[0] http://www.audible.com/pd/History/The-World-until-Yesterday-... [1] http://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/Masters-of-Doom-Audio...
Online MOOCs work so much better, but they don't have the social aspect and the live guidance factor.
The rewinding bit is why rewinding, bookmarking, and navigation features of audio players are critical to me. I really hate bare-bones audio player interfaces that make it a chore to do any of those things.
I have found many podcasts that use this format of mixing the narration with voices and sounds from people in the story and this is so distracting and annoying to me. I never go beyond one episode when that's the format.
I believe that the act of touching the book, carrying with you everywhere, leaving it on the table, seems to make its content much more memorable for me than reading it as an ebook or listening to it.
I find it that I still remember the details of hundreds of books I have read as a teenager, while I sometimes don't even realize that I've already read a certain book that I've read as an ebook or listened to.
A novel or technical book, both methods seem to work. Takes longer though.
I've found that simply talking to another person about the ideas/stories that I've read in any media solidifies them in my brain in a more profound way than any other method I know of. It's become my primary way of learning new material - read/listen about it, then explain it to someone else who is interested.
I stopped buying ebooks completely within the last year after being quite a fan and owning 3 kindle readers. I'll still buy from a publisher that will send me non-DRM in multiple formats. At least then I feel like I own it instead of renting.
When using ebooks I spend most of my time trying to figure out a search term that will get me back to a certain page. It's not a huge deal I guess, but just something interesting I noticed.
less distractions as well depending on when you were a teenager
I find it easier to listen to dull books rather than reading them, because there's an innate flow of pace with the audio version, rather than having my attention drift, so it's easier to get through the darn thing.
If I read a book before bedtime, the reading lamp keeps me awake. Listening to the audio book in the dark doesn't disrupt sleep as much. When I'm really enjoying a particular book, I do listen while I wash the dishes or in public transit, but this means I really like the book.
Do I listen to Tolstoy or the latest machine learning audiobooks? No. I listen to zombie trash novels and the like. Occasionally I stumble into something more worthy of a physical book. I've introduced authors I found in audiobook form to my book club.
The other thing, if a book is so uninteresting that I am constantly rewinding, then it's a shiat book and I simply move on to a more engaging book. I have 200 other audiobooks marked for reading so there is no shortage of possibly better books available to me.
It's like the Project Gutenberg of audiobooks, recorded by volunteers.
The quality of their readers varies, but there are some surprisingly good readers on there, such as my favorite so far, David Clarke, who did a superb reading of The Count of Monte Cristo.[2]
[1] - https://librivox.org/
[2] - https://librivox.org/the-count-of-monte-cristo-version-3-by-...
Librivox is fantastic; however, our copyright laws are just too restrictive. Librivox is the kind of thing that shows the immense value of a robust public domain.
Audiobooks don't really work for me. Maybe they work for other people, if so good for them. Maybe it doesn't work as well for them as reading the actual book would, but surely it's better than not being exposed to the material at all no?
Perhaps there is something to be said for people spending more time letting their minds wander and ruminating about stuff rather than self-distraction. But that necessitates an argument for silence and boredom, not an argument against Audiobooks in particular.
- Plugged -- Eoin Colfer
- Screwed -- Eoin Colfer
- Half {a King, the World, a War} -- Joe Abercrombie
- Also everything else written by Joe Abercrombie
- Seveneves -- Neal Stephenson
Sometimes it's not about how good the book is, but about the reader. That's the difference in the audio medium. Plugged and Screwed were books I only picked up because the reader of Half a King read them. They were stellar in audio form, but I don't normally go for those types of books in written form.
This can also up new avenues for how to spend time, outside of the multitasking case. I was staying with a friend a few months ago, and before bed we laid around for an hour listening to an audiobook that I wanted to share. It was like being a family in the olden days sitting around listening to a radio. Really great experience. I can't recommend it enough.
I like being able to cross reference materials and go deeper on things I read, and when I re-read a book, I see notes that I had forgotten about, which is near impossible with audio.
It seems its all about high amounts of shallow exposure to different concepts, good for "knowing what you don't know" but not really learning what you don't know.
Books past a certain complexity, or ones you want to read well, or quickly, are best read the old way.
I'd say audiobooks are awesome for squeezing that extra use/fun out your time, but they have to be done in a smart way.
I think this works for lighter topics, but I question the point of having something in the background and just hoping to gain value from it through... luck? I'm not sure what else to call the serendipitous moment when you're actively paying attention and the audiobook also happens to be on a section that's insightful.
I hear you. I've been an Audible subscriber for over 10 years, and I love audio books. But I don't find them much less "work" than reading. It's very easy to zone out, and more difficult than a book to get back on track.
I've resigned myself to keeping the non-fiction light, and going in with the understanding I'll probably have to listen to the book a few times.
Noise canceling headphones are important for me as they cut down the traffic noise. Audible subscription makes buying easy and removes the "is this book worth this much" decision.
One problem with the audiobooks is that you can't flip through the pages or search to recall something. Would be nice if there was for example audio+kindle combo subscription availabe.
Multitasking does not work for me. If I don't rfocus on the book, I miss it completely. In a sense this is meditative experience. With regular book I just pause reading, with audio book I try to keep other thoughts away.
Have you had problems being disconnected from the world around you with such a setup?
I'd like to take more walks instead of sitting more when I get home, but I'd be worried about being hit by a car or something I didn't hear.
I've also been listening while walking around/using public transport for many years, you can usually just pause the thing when you're in a situation that requires more attention (e.g. crossing) but generally it's better than walking while reading. The problem is more that if many things are happening you tend to lose track of the book. But that's why apps have "go back 30 second" shortcuts.
Good ones I have read:
The Kingkiller Chronicle - Patrick Rothfuss
Mistborn - Brandon Sanderson
Thrawn Trilogy - Timothy Zahn (Sadly this trilogy is no longer canon, if that matters to you)
I love to use them for long drives, chores, and when I played more video games I found them to be an essential companion. I have strong associations between certain games and certain books (a scene in some Ludlum novel and Grand Theft Auto III by a dam spring to mind) and it's still a pleasant way to set the mind in neutral.
That said, I tend to want to actually read a book that I care about to any real extent, but I'm also the type who re-reads a lot. I found the unabridged Wheel of Time to be something special out of all the audiobooks I've enjoyed though.
Sorry for babbling, I'm a bit passionate about this, although I get a bit sad when people don't read and just listen to books; although I think it's better than nothing for sure.
I'm becoming increasingly worried about GRR Martin. It'll be sad if the only conclusion is the increasingly butchered TV series.
Blind people tend to listen to things on fast speed because they've had more practice. I can imagine blind people listening at that kind of speed.
https://rdouglasfields.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/extraordinar...
> New research presented at the Society for Neuroscience meeting in San Diego shows that blind people can understand speech at ultrafast rates, well beyond what a sighted person can comprehend.
But you're right, sentence structure does play a part. I've listened to Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson) and Excession (Iain M Banks) recently and both I had to drop to 2x because I couldn't follow at 2.25x. The latter because of the long ship names that sounded like sentences took too long for my brain to parse out and comprehended, and the quite technical language. The former because of the slightly old fashioned and uncommon language. On the other hand, with another recent book, Under The Skin (Michel Faber), I was totally comfortable at 2.25x. The narrator was nice and clear with no strong accent, and the language was modern and descriptive but not overly complex.
Audiobooks are perfect for public transport.
Maybe some people just like reading/listening to books rather than watching TV and noodling on their phones all the time? And that's OK?
Here's things I can do while easily following my audio books: cleaning (house, car, dishes, etc.), cooking, brushing teeth, running, driving, cycling (Using a Aftershokz Bluez bone conduction headphones so I can still hear what's around me). The majority of my daily listening time is from cooking and commuting by bicycle (I spend about 45-60 minutes every day cycling).
Things I can't do while listening to audio books: programming, watching multimedia, playing a video game. In other words, things that require high mental concentration. If I try to listen to an audio book while programming, I'll either not follow what's happening in the audio book, or I'll not be able to concentrate on programming.
Here's the magic. You get an audiobook a month for $16. But "fine print" once you accrue 6 credits, you get literally nothing for your money. You just stay at 6 credits. Every month, paying, and getting nothing in return.
Gotcha capitalism at it's finest.
Even better, I think text-to-speech is basically good enough at this point to read books without an audio version! (I've found that I need to concentrate a lot harder when I'm listening to a OSX text-to-speech recording, but maybe there are better services.)
Can't do it when I'm programming, though.
My sense is that there are certain books that can be 'performed' in audio and they are best suited for the format. For academic or theory books, less so, although anything read by the author can give additional insight (or be incredibly annoying depending on their voice).
- audio so I can still change trains or do the dishes. Mostly pocket + ivona text to speech on my phone (takes a little effort to find an apk, the app was kinda unpublished at some point).
- a bit more than double the speed to match my reading/thinking speed. Otherwise I tend to drift of in thoughts and have to rewind. If I hear a lecture and play a computer game I stick to normal speed.
For instance, during my day job as a software engineer, when I am doing any kind of visual work, audio is easy to listen to. Things like building UIs with web tech like HTML and CSS.
When I am doing anything more traditionally related to software it is a 100% shift, I can't follow a thing.
The same likely applies when reading too often and too little.
My brain needs time to synthesize information. I'd be very impressed if the subject of that little anecdote at the beginning of this article--that guy who apparently reads even while brushing his teeth--recalls more than 30% of the content he listens to.
Audiobooks and podcasts are fantastic for driving, though - if I go visit back home, it's a three hour, pretty monotonous, trip each way, so I can get into a Hard-core History show or a few chapters of an unabridged audio book. I'm not sure why driving and listening go together so well, unless it is just decades of training at this point.