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They learned that you can demand respect all you want, but if you actually want to get respect, you have to earn it from the people you're expecting it from.
Edit: It seems like a lot of HN users have a severe aversion to authority, so I guess I've learned something new today :P
Because that's stupid. Provisional respect, sure. Continued respect after acting like a buffoon? Nah.
Of course, it might be pragmatic to continue the expected ceremonies of respect, but that ain't respect.
I've certainly had the experience of dealing with poor teachers obsessed with the ceremonies of respect though.
Edit: Well, you can go around demanding it but you're delusional if you think people actually respect you.
I don't call English "knights" Sir either, because fuck that.
Note that none of this means I'd be rude, I just wouldn't afford them any more respect than anybody else.
Not calling a knight Sir, is rude to THEM. They earned it,they were recognized for their achievement. To not call them Sir is rude.
So what of it? Knighthoods are handed out to political cronies like they're Jaffa Cakes. Besides, I'm not a subject of Her Majesty the Queen, Elizabeth Windsor. Demanding deference to the monarchy is an insult to civil society.
If someone is rude to you in your eyes and based on your standards, how you react is still on you and is your responsibility. You can still be respectful to rude to people.
Respect is a two way street.
By abandoning any pretence of objective analysis you're reducing rudeness to a meaningless concept.
They were presenting themselves as better than ours; not merely our teacher, but our superior, our better. Not as someone who would instruct and help us. And yes, it was the first day, the first attempt to make a first impression, and that impression was: I am more important than you, and I demand that you all to acknowledge it every day.
It was incredibly pompous and tone-deaf.
I'm obviously not familiar with your situation; I definitely agree with you if the teacher was intentionally being pretentious. But if he/she was just correcting students and asking them to call him/her "doctor" on the first day, I think you are overdoing it.
But it seems different for a teacher to put themselves above other teachers at the same school and expecting others to remember that?
I call people with doctoral degrees "Dr." unless I'm invited otherwise or we're in a non-professional setting. Doctoral degrees usually aren't mere pieces of paper; going out of one's way to diminish the work and sacrifice involved is kind of rude.
But I also think it's kind of snooty and ill-mannered to explicitly demand to be called Dr.
Like with table manners. It's rude to not be decent to other people at the table. But equally rude to snap at another guest for eating with his mouth open.
This example is kind of an in-between on the teacher's part, because socialization is part of education. Only parent knows whether the teacher was motivated by socializing skills or ego.
> Edit: It seems like a lot of HN users have a severe aversion to authority, so I guess I've learned something new today
As always, the aversion is slightly more nuanced than just authority. You'll find lots of respect for certain other positions of authority (eg CEO). Also, aversion to the hierarchy of schools is nothing unique to HN.
Well, it's news to me! I never noticed this thinking before, probably because it's not a common topic of discussion on HN.
[1] RFC 1122 § 1.2.2: "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send"
I would say a lot of HN users have an aversion to blind submission to authority.