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Visual Studio 2017 Update now available for download

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BTW Scott Hanselman just posted how to write native Linux C++ apps using Dev Studio on Windows with linux subsystem, which I never ever thought would be possible but is awesome.

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/WritingAndDebuggingLinuxCAppl...

Don't most products nowadays use a built-in updater so they don't have to announce updates when they are available as 'news'?

This isn't the first HN post to make it on to the front page about a software/service update... I only (try to) submit things that are very relevant to the developer community.

The thing is, the update itself doesn't really have much cool stuff in it. Check out the update notes: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-...

Well, you are the Visual Studio Product Manager, so I assume you are being paid to post these things. No?

I prefer to use more tested products at the first place. Instead, I often fall as a victim of an update rampage. There were the days when the usual release cycle of a product was 12 to 18 months.

I appreciate your sentiment here, we do our best to ensure the software quality stays high while at the same time we also try to deliver these smaller updates faster to customers. The world is changing very quickly and the software we use to build software in this world also needs to try and keep up.

Specifically in this release we’re adding support for Windows Creators Update, an updated Xamarin and RedGate tools, and, yes, we’re also fixing customer-reported issues.

With that said we know we are not perfect, but we really are trying to build the best tool. We also listen to our community a lot, it doesn't mean we can fix every issue or implement every feature suggested but the team is committed to our customers and I hope we can win you over.

Related links: - VS Feedback center: https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/Feedback

Ops posted incorrect link for feedback above, this one is the correct one to use: https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/spaces/8/index.h...

I don't know if there's any Microsoft employees reading this, but if there are any: I'd pay to have a Visual Studio that works on Linux. No, not that browser based Visual Studio Code, the real one.

Is there a decent UCRT/CRT installer yet? One that doesn't require pre-requisite Windows Updates first?

I'm still using VS 2012 because of the nightmare of releasing C++ based software that uses the UCRT (believe it or not, not everyone is on Windows 10/2012 R2 yet).

If I was an Enterprise edition customer I would feel flicked by Microsoft essentially integrating a trial version of some 3rd party SQL extension in an "update" that shows ads to upgrade in unwanted prompts.

Hi there! Yeah, that would be rather sucky. But for what it's worth, the Redgate tools we're integrating into Visual Studio aren't time-limited trial editions - they're the real deal. We know there are raving fans of ReadyRoll in particular, because of the way it integrates the database into the whole DevOps workflow. So we struck an agreement with Redgate to partner on integrating these capabilities more deeply into Visual Studio. These tools are not available outside of Visual Studio outside of the paid Redgate product.

While it's an optional feature that can be easily added or removed, we do take your feedback onboard: we don't want this to feel like an ad or trialware. We're certainly sensitive to that, and we'll keep working with Redgate to tune the user interface accordingly.

Thanks for the feedback, Tim Sneath | Visual Studio Team

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