UK researchers create graphene-based sieve that can remove salt from seawater
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So while some aquatic bacteria can exist at a wide range of external salt concentrations (they are "euryhaline"), I don't know of any bacteria that have adaptated to actively concentrate salt internally above the salinity of typical seawater. Beyond a certain not-very-useful threshold, this would disrupt too many metabolic pathways and kill the bacterium. So I don't see how a concentrate-in-the-bacteria-then-filter-them-out approach to industrial desalination would work.
You might be thinking about brine pool extremophile bacteria / archaea, but again, they are just well-adapted when it comes to expelling salt or resisting salt intake, not actively concentrating it internally.
However, if you could embed euryhaline bacteria into some kind of impermeable membrane in a controlled orientation, and engineer them to express the right kind of one-way channels on opposite sides of the cell... there are some big bioengineering obstacles to doing this, but it's an interesting idea. It would basically be a sped-up version of the double reverse osmosis desalination approach already widely used, potentially more efficient and available to be powered more easily by sustainable / free energy sources.
I'm just typing as I think there, so maybe there's been work in this area already.
The next step, problems with contaminants (seawater) fouling the membrane, might be mitigated with more layers? Say a Teflon layer to aid in cleaning. Or an ionized layer to repel many particulates.
I wish they'd said more about how they control pore size. How does the epoxy layer avoid covering the pores? Is it laid down before pores are etched or something? Fascinating subject.
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To summarise, they prepared graphene oxide laminates using vacuum filtration, and then stored them at different relative humidities by changing the salt concentration of the storage liquid. The different relative humidities cause different layer spacing, which they measure with X-ray diffraction, and choose whichever layer spacing they want before adding the epoxy.
The relevant quote from the paper:
Thick (≈100 µm) GO laminates were prepared by vacuum filtration of aqueous GO solutions, as reported previously. The laminates were cut into rectangular strips (4 mm × 10 mm) and stored for one to two weeks at different relative humidities (RH), achieved using saturated salt solutions. The resulting interlayer spacing was measured by X-ray diffraction as shown in Fig. 1e and varied from ≈ 6.4 to 9.8 Å with RH changing from zero to 100%. GO laminates soaked in liquid water showed d ≈ 13.7 ± 0.3 Å. All these values agree with previous reports, where the changes in d were attributed to successive incorporation of water molecules into various sites between GO sheets. Individual GO strips with desirable d were then encapsulated and stacked together using Stycast epoxy as shown in Figs. 1b,c to increase the available cross-section for filtration to 1 mm (see Methods and supplementary Fig. S1). The stacked GO laminates, now embedded in the epoxy (Fig. 1c), are referred to as physically confined GO (PCGO) membranes because the epoxy mechanically restricts the laminate’s swelling upon exposure to RH or liquid water (Methods). The stacks were glued into a slot made in either metal or plastic plate (Fig. 1b). Two sides of these stacked PCGO membranes were then trimmed off to make sure that all the nanochannels are open (Fig. 1d) before carrying out permeation experiments, in which ions and water molecules permeates along the lamination direction as shown in Fig. 1a.
In terms of what's new about this - yeah, less pressure and less energy. On boats the prospect of lugging around your own fresh water makes even relatively heavy and power-hungry desalination plants worthwhile, but land-based installations are very much limited by capital costs and energy usage.
We eventually gave up and went with an Alfa-Laval heat exchanger based approach.
edit: I have worked on many RO systems and we always did auto flushing and I am not sure I ever saw anything other than that. It was pharma though.
To set some context that people here might appreciate, there wasn't a single computer or data link to offshore drilling rigs at that time. We were just starting to play with radio modem links.
A few things I've found:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene
"10 µm few-layered graphene flakes were able to pierce cell membranes in solution"
http://www.kurzweilai.net/graphenes-negative-environmental-i...
"In groundwater, which typically has a higher degree of hardness and a lower concentration of natural organic matter, the graphene oxide nanoparticles tended to become less stable and eventually settle out or be removed in subsurface environments. In surface waters, where there is more organic material and less hardness, the nanoparticles remained stable and moved farther, especially in the subsurface layers of the water bodies."
(also http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/ees.2013.0392)
Funny enough, its not actually banned in the USA, just a liability nightmare. I ocasionally still see brake pads with the stuff. I suspect graphine, and other 'nano' materials will be similar in practice.
Fluids can remain subbornly un-mixed, over large distances and for long times. Given that brine is heavier than seawater, it will almost certainly tend to sink and flow along bathymetric contours, perhaps pooling in local low spots. And sealife can be exceedingly sensitive to changes in temperature, ion density, salt content, etc.
This reminds me of a book in which an ecologist described a discussion with a chemist over the concentration of some pollutant in seawater. Roughly, "Assuming a well-mixed solution..." starts the chemist. "How are you planning to stir the oceans?" asks the ecologist....
> But that doesn’t mean that there are no other ways of getting better output for our energy. The total process of desalination turns out to require three to four times the theoretical minimal energy use, since the salt water must be pumped and pretreated, the membranes maintained, and the resulting brine handled afterwards. Some of these things might be amenable to further improvements, and there has been work put into developing membranes that don’t clog up as easily or better pre-filtering of biological materials.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/08/desalinization-is-thi...
More: http://science.sciencemag.org/content/333/6043/712
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Menachem_Elimelech/publ...
> Based on thermodynamic principles and practical kinetic requirements, the theoretical minimal energy for desalination with FO is always higher than that without FO. In other words, using FO cannot reduce the minimum energy of separation.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shihong_Lin/publication...
The idea behind forward osmosis is to replace the salt in water with some other solute, like sugar. A strict 1-particle-to-1-particle replacement can (I think) have arbitrarily low free energy cost, but then you're just stuck with sugar water instead of salt water. In certain special cases this is fine (like for emergency water generation at sea, when you don't mind drinking sugar water). Insofar as low levels of sugar can't be tasted, and insofar as you have access to free sugar, you can avoid the energetic cost of removing some of the salt by replacing it with sugar. But I don't think this is very much before it becomes noticeable, and sugar isn't free.
If you happen to have excess thermal energy from some source, there are also ways to harvest some of this using forward osmosis, but this is really just another way to smuggle in free energy. In principle, you could use the heat gradient to generate electricity and then use that to power normal reverse osmosis, although which is more efficient will depend on the details of your equipment losses.
Even better, it can have a (theoretical) energy gain if you use a substance with a lower heat of mixing than (sea) salt and water.
The surface is fragile, because it's composed of tiny spikes. Rubbing will destroy it. It's hard to fix this, because the property that makes it useful is the same as the one that makes it fragile.
> But it has been difficult to produce large quantities of single-layer graphene using existing methods, such as chemical vapour deposition (CVD). Current production routes are also quite costly.
> On the other hand, said Dr Nair, "graphene oxide can be produced by simple oxidation in the lab".
> "In terms of scalability and the cost of the material, graphene oxide has a potential advantage over single-layered graphene."
E.g. look at how long it took to develop digital cameras, flat screen TVs, etc.
I'm not saying it shouldn't take time to develop these things, but surely the 30-40 year timeline is significantly reduced due to information sharing today?
Check out the book "Skunk Works" sometime and marvel at what they managed to do on the frontiers with such small numbers of people and crappy computers (with relatively small budgets and tight deadlines to boot).
Peter Thiel riffs on this idea a lot. Despite our incredible advances in computing and networks, it seems like progress in everything else has slowed down. (Randomly found video with his basic stack of points: http://bigthink.com/embeds/video_idea/48434?width=512&height...)
Another example, consider how long it takes to build any skyscraper in the US. This isn't even new tech, it's well understood, but it still takes a long time from planning to legal stuff to the actual construction. And yet there's a guy in China who builds other kinds of skyscrapers at a rate of two floors per day. Slowness is not a fundamental thing.
If this is made the makers better warn first or that ketchup is going to fly out like a rocket.
And from what little chemistry I know, I though graphene oxide was rather inert.
This has incredible potential not only for the developing world but also for sea travel and even the fact that we are running out of drinkable water in the west.
Only 2.5% of the water on the planet is even potentially drinkable. If we were able to convert even 1%. Crazy.
http://www.noticel.com/noticia/177413/la-sequia-es-para-larg...
This may be because I'm restricted to English language articles, but I don't see, for example, "Spanish researchers do [Amazing Thing]". Even in English, I don't regularly see "US/Australian/NZ/Canadian/South African/etc. [X] do [Amazing Thing]"; even though I'm sure plenty of amazing things have been done by these folks.
I understand that the popular press is directed towards the masses, but is the nationality/allegiance of [X] really so important? More so than their discovery/invention/whatever? I'm British and, in a time when populist nationalism is causing all kinds of problems, I'm not sure this rhetoric is helpful. Just be proud of the achievement.
How about just: "[Amazing Thing]"?
Or, if you want to associate it with people, to make it more personal and less "stark" (perhaps to sell it better): "Humanity achieves [Amazing Thing]".
As I heard it I thought, this is an odd story. Firstly for the nationalist rhetoric, and secondly for the way it's phrased. It gives the impression of a sieve, much like a kitchen sieve, that can be used to instantly turn sea water into drinking water. Which is nowhere near the truth as far as I can tell.
> populist nationalism is causing all kinds of problems
That is not a factual statement, it is a subjective political opinion. People on the other side of the fence think the opposite. From whence do you derive this claim to objective truth? Most of your point seems to be built on that statement, but its subjective nature makes it fall apart.
> That is not a factual statement, it is a subjective political opinion.
I concede to this point. You are right: this perspective is completely subjective, when I was trying to make the objective point that science/progress doesn't care about nationality, etc. My argument's motivation was to highlight that the popular [British?] press not only dismisses this, but seemingly goes out of their way to push things in the other direction. Whether that's bad or not is very much ones opinion, but it is nonetheless objectively irrelevant modulo the scientific result and arguably "bad" in the sense that it is biased. It begs the question as to what is their (or their master's) end?
I didn't put it well. Thank you for pointing it out.
(I realize this forum will be almost overwhelmingly in favor of the above statement, but thought I would respond anyway to give an alternative viewpoint from outside).
What problems? Is it really causing problems, or is it just that you are politically opposed to it? The lack of nationalism I would say has caused far more problems over the last few decades (Mass clashing of cultures, rise of terrorism, global multi-nationals exploiting workers, not paying taxes etc, moving democracy and accountability further and further away from people).
If a family member achieved something you would naturally feel more "proud" than if it was a person in the world picked at random.
For some people, their nationality is important to them - an extended family of shared identity, culture, experiences and values. I would much much rather use a local taxi company, which will benefit my local community, friends, family, than use some faceless global thing like Uber, which will benefit some rich people in another country.
Further, competition is good. It's the way we achieve things. If a team of scientists in [other_country] see this news, they will likely be spurred on.
This is why things like the space race worked so well.
I fail to see how nationalism is going to help solve terrorism, bad working conditions, tax evasion and dysfunctional democratic institutions.
I am afraid that nationalism will lead to decreased understanding of and less acceptance towards cultural differences.
So you're just politically opposed to it.
It's not a disaster if you're very much opposed to an EU superstate.
I'm not from the UK but am in the EU, and I was hoping the Remain side would win the referendum. But I don't see UK leaving as a disaster, either, and after the referendum, the overblown hysteria related to Brexit has led me to see that in fact it maybe is a very wise thing to do for Brits and maybe we should follow. EU leaders and pundits seem so disconnected from reality: if this is an ultimate disaster, they are too deep gazing their own navels.
And in fact, Deutsche Banke actually made the reported announcements, as reported by Bloomberg.
Are the claims false when they're on a "bad" site, but simultaneously true when they're on a "good" site? Put differently, do you have a refutation of the DB recommendations that doesn't rely on a logical fallacy?
The Bloomberg article upon which this is based, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-23/deutsche-..., would have been the much better choice to link anyway since it's in English. What it says is that some DB analysts thinks German stocks are overvalued, and that British stocks could profit from the decline of the Pound's value. How does that imply that the UK is doing well? You just linked an article, claiming that it proves your point, but didn't say how.
The Bloomberg article makes the same basic point as DWN, which implies that the exact opposite of what "Remain" promoters predicted is happening. Many EU countries are tanking financially, with e.g. Italian banks requesting big bail outs to avoid collapse. Meanwhile capital is flowing into Britain. Focusing on the shades of spin in these various publications (which, yes, is there) sort of misses this main fact. I agree the Bloomberg article would have been a better choice on my part, sorry about that.
Apparently it's politically uncomfortable for you, but the evidence is mounting that letting the pound fall was what Britain needed to stimulate its economy. Deutche Bank has no political reason to recommend investors leave Germany, which was supposed to be the strongest country in Europe and invest in Britain, so a likely explanation for DB's recommendation is that it reflects the economic reality.
Why do you bring Italian banks into this? They are completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
It's not new or surprising that a falling currency is good for exports and can fuel an economy. Countries were and are regularly accused of manipulating their currencies to achieve that. The thing is that Brexit hasn't happened yet, so neither have its effects. Nobody knows whom it will affect or how. But the drop in the Pound's value is a clear sign that the markets don't have a whole lot of faith. If the Pound's weakness helps their economy now, then good for them. But it doesn't prove the point you think it does.
Nobody can predict the future, so claiming that predictions about it "reflect economic reality" is misleading. The recommendation is likely to represent the analyst's sincere expectation, though. I'm not arguing to the contrary.
Except that was an argument promoted primarily by Leavers, who favored letting the currency fall, right?
The majority who where against Brexit predicted severe economic problems for Britain as a direct consequence of leaving what was characterized as "safety" of the EU. The relevance seems obvious, because the opposite is happening?
By the way I'm not reducing this to DB's analysis, that's why I hinted at the larger upturn for Britain and downturn for core EU countries in the wake of Brexit. There are other indicators... I would suggest looking on on your own.
I'm sorry that you think investment advice can have no bearing in economic reality... but in that light, I don't think it would be productive for us to continue.
I was rather hoping I wouldn't have to dig up old "BUY MORE TECH STOCKS" or "BUY MORE HOUSES" articles from the height of the dot-com bubble or US housing bubble to point out that analyst opinions aren't necessarily right.
The markets are already factoring this in, dude. But that could be hard to see if you don't believe that markets embed any reliable information.
But the relevant thing about it is that the market is betting in the real, hard money it trades with, not political punditry which is where the disaster is being pronounced.
Fair enough to pick at which adjectives are used. I certainly find the nationality of the researchers more interesting than many other aspects, such as their hair color. Different nations have different cultures and policies towards things. Using nationality as an adjective might lead to productive conversations around how to make the species better. If so, that's a win. If all it does is promote mindless nationalism, it's a loss. So far, I'm not seeing anything to worry about -- and this title is much better than "Several Short, Brown-Haired People just did some Amazing Things with Beakers!" :)
ADD: It seems like my joking title should end with "And you won't believe #7!"
Thanks for your comment. This kinda thing can certainly get out of hand. So far we are very far away from that happening.