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Bluntly, no. Laypeople are not the intended audience for scientific papers and usually lack the background to provide an informed review (hell, even most researchers in the field do). They do lack certain biases and incentives that researchers familiar with the topic usually have, but that doesn't compensate for what they don't know (for example, whether the claimed phenomenon has been tested many other times and not shown up; whether the claimed mechanism is bunk; whether the supposedly novel idea has already been published many other times).

That being said, laypeople can (and should) absolutely call out research malpractice like what's described in the article.

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I disagree pretty strongly.

You've got worldwide universities churning out masters and pdh-level educated persons, who mostly go to the private sector for employment. Many of those would be perfectly able to perform peer review. And with this p-hacking crisis, mostly due to abject statistical knowledge, there are literally millions of technically able non-scientists able to review this nonsense. Any physicist, econometricist, statistician (and >100 more technical fields) could kindly take a shot at the social science methods in dispute here.

You're focusing on exactly one aspect of peer review, determining whether the statistical methods used were valid, which I agree can be done by pretty much anyone with a background in statistics (given that these days it's pretty easy to get in touch with the authors to ask for clarification). But peer review is about more than just determining whether the paper is internally coherent (or directly lifts text from other papers by the same author, which can be determined by a machine). I shouldn't have to say this, but a former physics Ph.D. is emphatically not qualified to perform peer review on papers on cell biology solely because physics and cell biology are both science. Papers don't exist in a vacuum, and by engaging in practices like selective citation (and others I mentioned in the previous post), it's possible to convince intelligent and reasonable people of a point that is completely wrong. In fact, it's so easy it even happens somewhat routinely within narrow subspecialties, where there may only be a handful of experts on a phenomenon worldwide. People who aren't up to date with the field already usually don't have time to spend weeks, months, or years trudging through the literature to gain enough background knowledge to make those kinds of decisions.

So, peer review doesn't scale, and some alternative is needed.

Sounds about right. How about we crowdsource the task? Since all the qualified specialists are busy writing grants against a 15% payline, we can farm it out to people without those pressures.

Oh... wait...

You're right (and we probably agree). I did focus on the number 1 problem in social science / pop psychology today -- sloppy statistics.

But you do make a convincing point. The 'stink' that is uncovered nowadays is mostly in those sciences where the layman / statistically schooled can make a difference. We hear a lot less about the replication crisis in those sciences where one indeed needs to have a lot of background knowledge before being able to do peer review. That's a problem.

There is no reason to assume that the same problems are not paramount in cell biology and other fields. We actually have enough reason to believe that many trials in medicine are flawed. Given that researchers in all fields face the same incentives (publish or perish) we are probably looking at at least 20 years of false, peer-reviewed and published results in all fields. That's a huge problem for mankind.

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