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It strikes me as odd that Americans don't seem to mind that a President to some extent might be serving the interests of a foreign power above the interests of the his own citizens.

Who would have thought so many Americans would have a love affair with a KGB Agent that is responsible for murder and oppression and for his entire life worked to undermine America and has accomplished that to some extent with this Administration.

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The current President is surrounded by a cult of personality. It makes it easier to see all of the news reports in the vein of "bitter mass media upset about election results" or "pandering to SJW/PC crowd."

Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of journalists are in some part motivated by their displeasure with the President's demeanor and public behavior. But that motivation doesn't mean they're dishonest, it just means that they will follow through on every lead in an investigation regarding POTUS corruption.

Keep in mind he only has a 35% approval rating, most American are bothered greatly by what's going on. He also lost the popular vote, so he won even though more people voted for someone else.

I think that the part you are missing is that the vast majority (like 65%) don't support or respect this President at all.

Of all the terrible things the government has done in the past 1 / 10 / 100 years, I don't think that a candidate coordinating with Russia about which fake news to publish is even worth mentioning.

If Congress has the guts to investigate the Steele dossier (which alleged Trump traded eased regulations for oil interests) then that's great. And if he is impeached on that basis, that's great too, although it leaves us with a probably worse Mike Pence. Better yet is if the entire government falls.

I'm not defending Trump or his conduct; I'm just saying this is a distraction.

Russia's goal is fragmenting the US. Just as the US did to the Soviet Union. Turnabout is fair play, no?

The confidence with which you express the goals that you're projecting on Russia here is scary. Not only do we have yet to find evidence that Russia did anything involving the election (although we certainly could during these investigations), you seem to have sussed out their goal in doing that which has not been proven, and a motive of revenge.

It's weird. Hearing people talk like this is weird, and reminds me of the run-up to Iraq, except that at least then there were claims to evidence.

I've been following this stuff for decades.

Have you read Igor Panarin's work? He and Putin are both "ex"-KGB.

But hey, it's just a hypothesis. Let's see what evidence comes out.

Edit: http://perezhilton.com/2016-12-29-russia-donald-trump-electi...

Treason is not a distraction, it's as serious as a crime gets.

Treason? You come to Hacker News to imply that the President of the United States has committed Treason. What proof do you have? This is pure slander.

Sorry your preferred candidate lost the election. Next time don't let violent, intolerant, elitist, smug liberals and celebrities take over your political party. Democrats used to be about Unions and the working family. Appears that era is over.

As noted in previous comments... There is a reason the Rust Belt voted for Trump, and it has nothing to do with Russia.

I implied no such thing, read what I wrote 50 times if you must until you see that I merely said treason is a serious crime, not a distraction. I didn't not imply he was guilty, we don't know that one way or the other; hence the investigation.

You really need to learn to have a discussion with someone, without blaming them for all of the perceived faults of the democrats. You don't know my political party, nor my preferred candidate, you're just assuming everything as if everyone who doesn't like Trump is the same.

> There is a reason the Rust Belt voted for Trump, and it has nothing to do with Russia.

No one thinks it does; the Rust Belt is just gullible and fell for a con man promising them things that cannot occur, those jobs cannot come back, they no longer exist. They heard what they wanted to hear because they're unable to hear the truth.

Indeed. Not all Americans, but enough.

And hey, even W liked Putin. He's a regular sort of manly man. Like the current President seems to idealize, in his own cokehead yuppie way.

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