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Just so you know, sometimes when women leave for "family reasons", it is because they are sick of putting up with the bullshit of discrimination while trying to balance a career with raising a family. This problem is more of a self fulfilling prophecy than chicken-and-egg.

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> these high-status women might be more likely to take up a domestic role because they're being discriminated against in the first place

You almost quoted him.

Replacing 'might be' with 'are' is a significant difference.

I think it's generally better to propose hypotheses if you're not backing up your assertions with data.

> Just so you know, sometimes when women leave for "family reasons", it is because they are sick of putting up with the bullshit

No discrimination necessary. Every job has bullshit for everyone. An engineer friend got a new boss she doesnt like and her project manager job is stressful, and not what she likes (engineering), but the only way up the career ladder. She now thinks about getting kids as a way out.

> while trying to balance a career with raising a family.

As if men don't have this problem...

I suppose it's more socially acceptable that the men neglect the family. (Speculation:) Or men tend to neglect more ?

Define neglect. Ensuring the family is provided for is the very opposite of neglect.

I definitely think it's more socially acceptable. It's just another annoying gender stereotype.

But to me the problem is companies working employees too long. Salary before meant putting in your 9-5 and leaving early on Fridays. Now if I don't put in 12 hours a day I look bad. If I do I look average.

Life often gives you a series of small choices that amount to preferring your career or your family. Different people choose differently and it adds up over time.

This choice is not gender neutral, we can see clear differences - and this shows up in all kinds of places, choice of profession being one of them; taking time off for family - another.

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