Ask HN: How will we handle security when computation gets even faster?
How are we planning to address this in the future when the computational powers exceed way beyond what we have today? Just curious what is being done to address this.
How are we planning to address this in the future when the computational powers exceed way beyond what we have today? Just curious what is being done to address this.
For e.g. we can generate larger primes for use in the RSA algorithm with the faster computer and it would take proportionally more time for it to factorize the numbers.
The problem would be when the required computations' (prime factorization in case of RSA) order of complexity is changed. For e.g. the Shor's algorithm can factorize prime numbers in polynomial time on a quantum computer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm
And indeed, it goes without saying that if we follow the same computational paradigm, we might just as well scale up the values that we currently use.
My question was more around what if computational paradigms change. As the example you mentioned, the problem becomes solvable in polynomial time. What could be the basis of the next generation of encryption/hashing?
I didn't mean that the infeasability of brute forcing an encrypted text is not useful, I was rather suggesting that it is precisely the definition of encryption. I was trying to differentiate between: 1. Using brute force method to convert an encrypted text to the original text without considering the encryption method. This is an inherent property of encryption, and does not pose a problem as you can scale up encrypted values to make brute-forcing infeasible on the fast computers * 2. Breaking the algorithm instead.
> As the example you mentioned, the problem becomes solvable in polynomial time
I think the issue in the example is not that the computing methods changed, but that the particular algorithm we use for encryption (prime factorization) has a polynomial solution on those computers. The point is that this shift in computing does not break all the encryption algorithms, there are other algorithms you can use that don't have a known solution (yet): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice-based_cryptography.
* All of this is assuming that everyone has access to the same class of computers. Obviously if someone gets their hands on a drastically faster computer while everyone else is still using smaller keys/prime numbers, then you have a problem.