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Flash 3D Engine that implements OpenGL

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Very impressive, I'm always impressed by people pushing the limits of what can be done. However, I did find that the extra CPU required to make this work is a little bit of a concern. Nonetheless, very well done!

This is totally unimpressive. You could totally do this with canvas and HTML5. In just 4-5 short years WebGL will be implemented in all browsers, so flash is totally useless here. And it uses like 50% of my CPU, which is stupid. Flash is stupid. What's the point of using flash, just because it let's you do things. Adobe development tools are terrible. CSS is awesome! Stop using flash! You're just locking yourself into a closed platform! You should develop for the iPad instead!

Edit: Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Every single submission that shows off something done in flash has a bunch ridiculous posts claiming you can do the same in HTML5. I thought I'd save them the trouble.

You're an idiot.

Oh, you were being sarcastic. I honestly just thought you were being an idiot. Sorry.

I think you wanted to be sarcastic, but I can't understand why. That's probably the reason you have been downvoted.

Anyway. Modern browsers with canvas, svg, webgl etc. are trying to develop what I think is essentially poor man's virtual machine. It's basically concept that Java Applets and Flash pioneered long ago. Except they didn't get implementation exactly right. This whole “Flash sux. HTML5 rox” hype is very short-sighted. Current implementations (except video) are slower than Flash (esp. on Windows) if even existent. And what do you think will happen in few years? If we're lucky we might have fast and reliable implementation of a decade old idea. The fact is that innovation doesn't come from standard bodies. In few years, we'll face this same exact situation, when attempting to use some new technology in our webapps, might it be 3D screens or thought-controlling or speech recognition, yet again to face lack of API or its 3 different implementations.

So what new does HTML5 bring to the table? Just recycling the same old idea, hoping to get it right this time.

I hope we'll have a decent and fast open implementation of Flash, or maybe Silverlight will get better traction, so that we'll be ready when everybody realize that this was just silly.

Dude, that's exactly my point. I'm saying the anti-flash hysteria is foolish.

See, the only reason I noticed it was because of this “4-5 short years.” It's just Poe's law applied.

Yeah, in retrospect I should have just kept my mouth shut. By the way the virtual machine analogy is really cool - I hadn't thought of it that way before.

Is there any other information about this engine? Yogurtistan looks something like a Habbo Hotel or Second Life game.

Are they planning on releasing this engine to others? I'm asking because I'd really like to use it to make a WebGL bridge for browsers that are failing to implement it.

Please free to contact me. erhan@erhanerdogan.com.tr

Interesting, but unusable on my Macbook at around 1 FPS. I'm hoping WebGL + V8 Javascript is successful in bringing 3d innovation to the web.

I don't get it. Does it implements a software 3D engine, or emulate OpenGL API, or call HW OpenGL directly in Flash?

It implements OpenGL API. That means that you can develop for that particular API that you probably know from elsewhere. Current implementation seams to be done in software, but it may well be hardware accelerated when/if Flash will get such a capability and then you could benefit from it and any other optimizations without having to modify your program in any way.

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