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To me, Mario Galaxy alone should be enouth to make Wii a perfect buy. Hope next Mario will be the same for switch

Yeah, it's all about the Mario for me. Since the washout that was Super Mario Sunshine they have been brilliant, though I thought SMG2 was a bit hard (as I couldn't finish it!). I still reckon I can remember my run for "Luigi's Purple Coins" in SMG1, and SM 3D World is just a great game, which I completed again in strict course order this year.

Sunshine a washout? Sunshine is perhaps the best 3D Mario - especially in HD @ 60FPS.

I just didn't like it: I went back to it a few times but the whole "stand there squirting that" didn't work for me.

You should give it a shot beyond the first couple bosses (first hour of play?). They kind of make you fight the same boss 3 times back to back, which is kind of a big barrier to entry if you're not into that mechanic. There's a lot more exploration and barely any stand and spray besides much more spread out boss fights after that.

It does always seem so divisive. I’m in the ‘enjoyed Galaxy but I think I actually prefer Sunshine’ camp. The new Mario looks really great, too, though.

"Look, all I'm saying is that this deserves a place on the shelf with the good Mario games, which is all of them! ...except Sunshine, obviously."

"What are you talking about? Sunshine's like the best one!"

The entire back-half feels like an unfinished rush job.

The music is cool and the setting is refreshing. The FLOOD gimmick is fine; it's nice to have some variance in Mario's move-pool. The weird tone can actually be endearing.

But it's not enough to make up for the in-intuitive level design and wild difficulty swings. A Mario game is expected to be one thing above all else "Fun Running And Jumping Puzzles" and Sunshine simply doesn't deliver.

> I thought SMG2 was a bit hard (as I couldn't finish it!)

same for me, but I admit that for me, as a not-anymore hardcore gamer, SMG was simple an amazing piece of art; awesome in all aspects of gaiming: gameplay, innovation music/art, fun.

Yep, I have Zelda BotW for Wii U, so I will buy the Switch depending on the quality of Mario Odyssey and the local multiplayer games that come out.

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