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I test-drove an AP2 car. After a disastrous ride in which it tried to hit two parked cars and a trashcan and wanted to drive off the road entirely, the sales person said, with a straight face, that it was great for stop and go traffic on 101. I'm a bit amazed they can currently sell cars.

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AP2 is currently only meant for freeway driving. The sales person was probably right. https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

Yeah, right. It is limited to 50 mph.

From the website:

  On-ramp to Off-ramp
  Once on the freeway, your Tesla will determine which lane you need to be in and when.
  In addition to ensuring you reach your intended exit, Autopilot will watch for opportunities
  to move to a faster lane when you're caught behind slower traffic. When you reach your exit,
  your Tesla will depart the freeway, slow down and transition control back to you.

That sounds nuts; it seems like a huge liability that they are putting AP2 in the hands of consumers when it can be more dangerous than just the average driver...

What liability? You're supposed to constantly be aware and in control of your vehicle when using AP2.

(At which point, you may ask: What is the point of AP2..?)

collecting data at the customer's expense :) A classic playbook in our industry since RECaptcha came out

What? RECaptcha provides a very valuable service to website maintainers and users alike.

sure, I didn't intend to say that recaptcha doesn't provide a useful service, I was just saying that they pioneers, in our field, in "exploiting" (for lack of a better term in my vocabulary) a human work to solve a problem while training for free a neural network that is going to be used in a separate line of business. I think it's just pure genius

It would be funny if in the future they say something like "So your new Tesla has Level 5 autonomy, but because the car still has a driving wheel, even if you turn on the Level 5 Autopilot, you're liable if an accident happens."

Of course that will be the case. Tesla will never be willing to accept liability for accidents.

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