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A few states including California have the WARN act [1]. The latest layoffs reported can be found here: http://www.edd.ca.gov/jobs_and_training/warn/WARN-Report-for...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

Wow, parsing that from all states that have it could be interesting.

Early heads up on an imminent recession maybe?

More likely it would be a lagging indicator, rather than a leading one. Companies will close plants and offices with same delay on the onset of a recession (itself defined formally as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth).

You're really only going to see large publicly traded companies reporting that way, and by that measure all those numbers are small in comparison to the size of those companies. Sucks for people getting the boot but I wouldn't think there is any indicator there. Those types of companies lay off people every year.

It'd be very interesting to see it animated on a map.

AFAIK, the WARN Act is a federal law, meaning it should apply in all states.

Lots of big tech companies.

AT&T - 102 - San Ramon

Atmel Corporation - 45 - San Jose

Atmel Corporation - 14 - San Jose

Atmel Corporation - 9 - San Jose

Broadcom - 64 - San Diego

Broadcom and Avago - 771 - Irvine

Broadcom and Avago - 435 - Santa Clara

Broadcom and Avago - 48 - San Jose

Cisco Systems, Inc. - 899 - San Jose

Cisco Systems, Inc. - 42 - San Jose

Cisco Systems, Inc. - 25 - San Jose

DreamWorks Animation and - 226 - Glendale

DreamWorks Animation and - 170 - Glendale

Ericsson Inc. - 435 - San Jose

FireEye, Inc. - 80 - Milpitas

GoPro, Inc. - 138 - San Mateo

Google - 104 - Mountain View

Google Inc. - 94 - Mountain View

Hewlett Packard Enterprise - 258 - Palo Alto

Hewlett Packard Enterprise - 208 - Sunnyvale

Hewlett Packard Enterprise - 143 - Citrus Heights

Intel Corporation - 84 - Santa Clara

Intel Corporation - 54 - Santa Clara

Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. - 139 - Santa Clara

Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. - 20 - Aliso Viejo

Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. - 12 - Folsom

Motorola Mobility LLC - 58 - Sunnyvale

Motorola Mobility LLC - 9 - Santa Clara

Oracle America, Inc. - 441 - Santa Clara

Ricoh Electronics, Inc. - 147 - Tustin

Seagate US LLC - 70

Sony Computer Entertainment America - 40 - San Diego

Symantec Corporation - 84 - Mountain View

Symantec Corporation - 77

Symantec Corporation - 23 - Mountain View

Symantec Corporation - 3 - Mountain View

Synaptics Incorporated - 77 - San Jose

Twitter, Inc. - 67 - San Francisco

Western Digital Technologies, Inc. - 59 - Milpitas

Xerox Business Services - 19 - Irvine

Xerox Business Services, LLC - 11 - Irvine

Also Verizon, VISA and others...

The layoffs continue at Oracle, specifically in Hardware ("converged infrastructure" too), as our HW revenue has shrunk from 5b per year in 2010 to 1.7b roughly this year.

Margin had dropped drastically as well, from 1.9b in profit to -45m (!) in the same time period. All data taken from our public SEC filings.

While this doesn't truly affect Oracle and its stock that much, our overall revenue continues to shrink globally. As such there have been thousands of people who have been laid off in the past two years, some silently, some in the WARN act.

Countless others have seen their roles relocated to India and Romania, which helps the company save on salaries, benefits, and commissions. By lowering cost of sales by hundreds of millions USD, the company has maintained its margin of roughly 30% per year.

But the layoffs will continue, and if the "Enterprise Hardware amd Software" market ever truly does ship out to the cloud, it probably won't be Oracle that is there to service those customers.

: many of my friends are Indian and Romanian and I am very glad they have decent jobs in their countries. I do not share the xenophobic sentiments of many of those who resent those countries that are receiving jobs from laid off roles in the US

I also have friends working at Oracle in Romania, and I confirm what you're saying. They are in the "who is hiring" category there.

Great, thank you! I'm glad to hear it. I'd say in the last 3-4 years, the number of Romanian employees has grown from 1-2k to 5-7k. Of course I could provide official numbers, but Oracle sues its own employees on a daily basis :)

How is one being xenophobic if they are not happy their job is going overseas?

Its easy to paint others as xenophobic when its not your job being shipped overseas.

I apologize for the very late delay on this response.

Of course someone should be unhappy that their CEO and Board of Directors has made a decision to lay them off in the USA explicitly because of salary costs, instead of performance or some important cause.

The reality is that this is the right of a private company- all you can do is attempt to navigate the deeply illogical and political system that we call the private sector.

Deciding that you should hate someone you've never met, because of their skin color, national origin, etc, because you think that THEY PERSONALLY took your job, is not logical or enjoyable in my opinion.

One should always blame the company, an artificial and greedy machine, not a fellow human, which is an organism driven by self preservation no matter the country of origin

How much xenophobic sentiment is there within tech workers themselves? I would think very little because most people in the industry are smart enough to understand that would be misdirected.

I generally agree with you, but I would say if the tech industry as a whole was like a muscle that appeared empathetic and understanding of cultural differences, there would be a thin nerve of xenophobia that controls some of the major movements of said muscle.

Why do I say this? It is a bit inherent for Americans to believe their job is theirs alone if they are performing adequately. If you are laid off, especially in sales, and then the company goes and spends money to hire someone in India or Romania, a xenophobic person would blame that new employee for existing. They wouldn't blame the company for making an unprofitable and often unethical move.

Telefonica (10th telco globally) is firing people in the wholesale/global solutions areas. Not just in Spain, also in the US, Brazil, Argentina, etc...

Ok, I thought there is a different between layoff and Firing.

Now seems everyone using it Interchangeably.

I guess in the context of this thread, it will all be layoffs.

Firing is usually "for cause": you, specifically, did something wrong or aren't performing well.

Layoffs are usually more related to business conditions: the company is losing money and needs fewer employees, or is pivoting in a different direction and no longer needs certain types of employees.

All that said, it's called "Who's Firing" because it's pithier and matches the "Who's Hiring" threads; these comments are all probably layoff-related.

What is the point of threads like this? Is the OP trying to be witty or humorous?

I don't believe these threads contribute to any discussions on this website. They are deliberately created as a joke.

They are presumably useful to anyone actively in the job market, as a company firing staff is a red flag for any prospective employee

Akamai is firing a decent batch of people.

Do you know what offices and/or positions?

A colleague of mine got laid off from VMWare.

Keen.io secretly laid off a large amount of staff recently across-the-board. They provided severance in exchange for fresh confidentiality agreements. Here are some examples of the various people and departments affected by the lay-off and all let-go simultaneously:

Director, People Operations & Facilities

VP Engineering

Sales

Tech Writing and Dev Engagement

We deleted the URLs you put in there to people's personal LinkedIn pages. That's way over the line. Please don't do that here.

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