Since most of Python and JavaScript I do at work is mostly searching and using examples and libraries from where ever having full complement already with the system feels impossible. On the other hand, APL implementations have had some time to make things right. I'll take a look at that big APL book and see what I can gather (my favorite way to learn).
BTW: I got my first taste of APL from one of the FinnAPL fellows. I saw some incredible things by him I've since tried to replicate after a fashion.