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Not only am I done with Uber, I'm starting to wonder about associates and partners (investors, advisors, marketing partners, etc.)

If you're still doing business with Uber in 2017, it's because you don't want to know or you don't care who you're dealing with. Neither reflects well on you. It tells me you have your own very low bar -- your own version of "well we're not as awful as taxis shrug" -- above which anything goes ethically and professionally.

Which is your choice. It is also my choice to be concerned about doing business with you and steer clear.

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So, do you feel this same way with every product/investor/advisor/partner/etc. that works with evil companies such as Wal-Mart? Or most banks. Or most internet providers. Etc.

It seems like you're very quick to jump on the "hate" bandwagon with Uber, but unless you are applying this logic to every company that's (more than likely) worse than Uber, it's pretty hypocritical. And I highly doubt that is the actual case that you do apply this same logic to many other evil corporations.

Just like shitty companies like Comcast, some people choose Uber because while it's not the best option you WANT to use, it's more than likely still the best option in a very tiny pool you have to choose from.

I think you think I said something different than what I think I said. :) I'm not talking about "evil" or "hate". I do understand needing to pick the least-worst option. And I'm not judging anyone else's situation/choices, as a customer.

EDIT: After re-reading your statement, it doesn't appear you meant customers. Leaving my statement below anyway.

> If you're still doing business with Uber in 2017, it's because you don't want to know or you don't care who you're dealing with.

Or because I don't really have an option. Cabs are still terrible and require me to carry cash which I don't, and lyft doesn't work on my phone.

Curious, what phone are you using where Uber works and Lyft doesn't?

I actually agree with the OPs statement as it applies to customers (at least when there's a reasonable alternative). I live in NYC so it was pretty easy for me - I deleted the app and switched to using Lyft.

Well, that's complicated but...

I currently use android, and lyft won't work without permanent access to my location and contacts, which I consider unacceptable. I'm supposed to get the ubuntu phone in about a week, and afaik, there's no lyft client for that. There is an uber webpage, m.uber.com or something that should work with it though.

This is all untested on my new phone, so I may be incorrect.

hahaha

Man, I knew there were gonna be some libertarians on this thread.

FWIW, I would strongly not consider myself libertarian |;)

what about the millions that make a living driving for Uber?

the real impact of automation / globalization perhaps has been put off my companies like Uber, employing people who have been left behind, by no fault of their own.

Uber is bigger than SV ethics and grandstanding.

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