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I disagree with that. In my experience the apps and extensions have gotten much clunkier. The UI is inconsistent across iOS and Android, and on Firefox and Chrome. If I want to look up a password on my phone I will get logged out of the app two or three times before I finally get to the item I'm looking for.

I was a premium member up until my subscription expired last week. It used to be required in order to use the mobile app. Now it's not, apparently, and given the mobile app experience I've been having lately it's not worth it. I've been passively looking for a self-hosted alternative I can switch to.

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I second your opinion and experience. I have been an Enterprise users for many years, but it has been getting in the way of getting work done. the Firefox plugin keeps losing passwords, takes forever to pop up and is a completely different UI from Chrome. Evaluating alternatives.

OwnCloud[0] has a password manager (Passman) that I've been thinking about.

[0] - https://owncloud.org/features/

I swapped to keepass, and I use sync to synchronise the file. It works reasonably well!

> It works reasonably well!

How does it not work? Confidentiality and data integrity are essential for password managers; they can't work most of the time in those regards.

It's file-based. If you have a copy open in one location, open a copy in a second, save the second, then make changes in the first and save the first, you can override the second copy's changes.

That said, KeePass 2.x (which came out in 2010/2011, but some people still use the old version) has synchronization built-in, and on top of that, there are plugins to make it keep backups or update a secondary database. It's the KeePass clones that have their own implementation of the internals where you can run into problems.

IT does what it says on the tin; it's a password manager. However synchronisation is extra (I use sync to sync the file, and because I'm on iOS I have to manually import the file into the app).

The recommended iOS app (MiniKeepass) doesn't support Touch ID to unlock the database (a PITA with a long master password, which I already have to unlock my device), so I'm using keepass touch, which is a MiniKeepass fork, but with ads, and they've been ignoring my requests for source code (MiniKeepass is GPL).

Browser integration is a pain; you haveto install an extension to Keepass, and then to your browser, and set them up correctly. Steps are at [0]

It works, but is a lot more hassle (which as a result means I'm more likely to skip it and use an insecure password) than Lastpass was.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/passifox/

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