Edit: Getting downvoted for asking a question. To be clear I have no idea what the emails are about and zero agenda here. The emails came across as very weird to me which is why I am asking.
Edit: Getting downvoted for asking a question. To be clear I have no idea what the emails are about and zero agenda here. The emails came across as very weird to me which is why I am asking.
What is truly maddening about conspiracy theorists, especially those who have gained a following, is that even the simplest, most rational explanation can easily be cast as a coverup of the conspiracy. If you have already inspired fear in someone, and gained their general trust, you can perpetuate that fear indefinitely, so long as undeniable evidence to the contrary is not presented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omlQHWrgmd4
Nothing conclusive here, but again, there are so many voices here who are so hysterically adamant about something that can't be proven either way that it makes me think that there's more to this.
The hysteria stems from the concept that your algorithm for detecting conspiracy is to grant credence to theories in direct proportion to their nefariousness. Your hypotheses are not falsifiable.
This guarantees that you will reject reasonable and logical explanations which are discordant with the conspiracy.
Your last sentence is a perfect example of this. The most villainous explanation for what you see as hysterical adamance is that every commenter here is covering up a pedophile ring.
Pedophile rings have been uncovered in many walks of life: religion, sports, hollywood and media, business, foreign governments, even Dennis Hastert and many others. Yet somehow the current US political establishment is immune to this?
Look, I'm not saying to lock up anybody without a trial or anything. We admittedly don't know if there's even a crime here yet. I just think the pile of circumstantial evidence is enough to at least warrant some kind of investigation. The media declared this "fake news" and brushed much of the weirdest facts under the rug.
Yes the media has misled it's viewers in the past. The media will mislead it's viewers in the future. But these facts are not sufficient to logically conclude that the media is misleading it's viewers on the pizzagate conspiracy. Journalism is not 100% misleading.
Yes pedophile rings have existed in the past, and will likely exist in the future. However, starting from the position that all organizations are assumed to be pedophile rings until proven otherwise is a complete inversion of our entire judicial system. The existence of other pedophile rings within powerful organizations does not infer that all powerful organizations contain pedophile rings.
Bias in journalism is an unavoidable reality. Choosing which stories to report upon is an example of bias. But the existence of bias does not infer an agenda. It is possible that journalists have an agenda, but it is not a requirement.
A simple analogy is that all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Many of your arguments are analogous to saying that since some rectangles are squares, and we can't directly observe this particular rectangle, we must conclude that this rectangle is a square.
> both you and the media would need to possess the truth. Since that is clearly not the case, you are once again jumping to the conclusion that the conspiracy must be true,
I am not rushing to jump to the conclusion that this conspiracy is true. I said the allegations should have some type of investigation. It is actually the media that has determined, with no conclusive proof one way or another, that this story is absolutely false.
> However, starting from the position that all organizations are assumed to be pedophile rings until proven otherwise is a complete inversion of our entire judicial system.
I never stated this. When speaking about Pizzagate in the past, I've always maintained that everybody is innocent until proven guilty. Given the types of allegations being spread here however, I support some type of investigation.
> Many of your arguments are analogous to saying that since some rectangles are squares, and we can't directly observe this particular rectangle, we must conclude that this rectangle is a square.
No, I'm saying that since we can't directly observe this particular rectangle, I think it's wise to investigate before making a determination about it's shape. The media are the ones that have already decided what shape it is before having proof.
And if it is code, why is it code for a massive child prostitution ring? Because 4chan or UrbanDictionary once used "pizza" in this way? Why do we think Podesta documents his work on 4chan or UrbanDictionary? Like, yes, the handkerchief code is a thing, but is everyone who owns a white handkerchief a pedophile?