Joyous Africans Take to the Rails, with China’s Help
nytimes.com
nytimes.com
edit: this guy speaks 4 very different languages - english, swahili, french, and chinese. that's quite impressive.
I'm just amazed at how China is moving forward where other countries (looking at you, USA) simply cannot. What's their secret?
– Having started later than western countries, their public debt (41% GDP) is much lower
– High GDP growth rates further lower the effective burden of their debt
– They can act largely unencumbered by the historic debt of colonialism, while western countries face opposition both internally as well as locally in the project countries
– They have less qualms of working with some regimes with less-than-stellar records on human rights
– Lower regard for human rights means lower risk of political tensions between China and the host countries, which could otherwise endanger investments. Western countries, conversely, want to avoid a situation where they have to compromise on morals to protect their investments (c.f. China)
– China has a lot more experience with large infrastructure projects than any other country.
– China brings their own workers to these projects, which are paid far below any construction workers you could find anywhere in industrial countries
– The politics of China allow for "Grand Plans" and their quick approval. Democratic processes would almost certainly stop any such project in a western country because it's impossible to write a reliable business plan for them. These are bets made on a whim and to a certain degree driven by politics and emotions.
– Western democratic countries generally regard such projects to be the provenance of the market.
Citation needed.
US corporations not only readily work with dodgy regimes, they also work with drug cartels. China has horrible human rights records, but US corporations readily deal with the Chinese govt when there is money or market-share to be gained.
Chinese corporations work with despots and unsavoury regimes. US corporations work with despots and unsavoury regimes.
Based on my understanding of this expansion into Africa, the Chinese government is heavily involved in negotiating mineral rights and uses its might to enforce the security of investments that are made by corporations, which are effectively state owned or at the very least can become so on the whims of the Politburo.
As with all ecosystems, deserts change over time. The fossil record shows, for example, that the Sahara desert once sustained aquatic animals and lush vegetation not present today.
It is environmentally prudent to avoid polluting all ecosystems whatever their appearance. Doing so ensures the longevity and continuation of all life on this planet, including that of humans.
EDIT: punctuation.
Second, China was "poor" not too long, it's fresh in their mind, they know how a poor place can just transform, and they see that possibility in Africa. Plenty of those that didn't make it in China figure they can in Africa by leveraging their connection to China. So it's not just rich Chinese in Africa, there are just average Chinese folks who move to Africa and do trade import/export and build small businesses too. They see the possibility and potential. Americans don't see that in Africa, most people alive in America today didn't witness when the majority of America was "materialistic poor" like Africa is today. Which was about 100+yrs ago.
For example, Americans will use their money to buy cars. The Chinese would save their money, and the banks can use that money to fund transit projects.
I don't know how true this is, but it makes sense in my brain. I'd love to do more reading about this as well. If it's true, that makes it mildly frustrating to me, since I save a lot of my income and refuse to own a car; I don't get any extra public transit out of that, though!
[1] http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/25/china-savings-rate-versus-the...
So I believe the real question is, why is it thought to be a money-loser?
And somehow, Chinese investors seem not to care that much about profits? It's unclear how much of these is foolishness versus vision versus corruption.
In any case, lots of great infrastructure gets built by companies that go bankrupt. From the point of view of someone who didn't finance it, maybe it doesn't matter whether it's a smart move or not.
Considering this sort of corruption is required to do business in these places, it effectively bars Americans from competing.
The idea behind it is if we don't incentivize corruption, it will go away. Needless to say, it didn't work, as it takes only one person to spoil it. It's a prisoner's dilemma game where only some players get punished
They are not building out of charity but the benefit their own companies. Lot of LatAm countries like Ecuador have taken Chinese credit when Commodity markets are hot, are now regretting their mistake.
[edit]: From Wikipedia -- The new line was built between 2011 and 2016 by the China Railway Group and the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation. Financing for the new line was provided by the Exim Bank of China, the China Development Bank, and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China.[5] A total of US$4 billion was invested into the railway.[6]
Ten years ago, the same was said about those same countries, except it was WMF loans, not Chinese loans.
GDP per capita Argentina: $14715 (2013)
The impact of a railroad (and therefore ROI whether measured financially or just socially) is bound to be higher for Ethiopia, esp since it is the first and only to connect the landlocked country to a major sea port.
Can you explain this comment? China is not building rail networks in Africa for altruistic purposes, their primary interest in Africa's natural resources. How does that relate to the US in any way?
>"Also: environment is happier."
Have you been to a Chinese city recently? Beijing or Shanghai? They are choked with cars despite having good rail infrastructure. In fact China is the largest producer of cars the planet right now. There are times when your lungs hurt at the end of the day. People wearing air pollution masks is normal.
Also you are comparing a centrally planned economy full of SOEs(state owned enterprises) controlled by the Communist Party with a free market economy, they are nothing alike.
>"What's their secret"
There is no secret, the economy is centrally controlled by a single political party that can not be voted out of power.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_veh...
This sea route is the fastest way from Europe to Asia. Tons of oil from the Middle East flows through here.
And it's old story: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Pilger_John/Have_Nice_War_...
Diesel engines for locomotives are likely 40% efficient before accounting for the motor-generator section. A modern a coal fired power plant might be 40-45% efficient. So probably the same based on raw thermal numbers.
I suspect economically the electrification is a win.
Also over the future it's possible to run the electrified trains on electric power from greener sources, like solar and wind. Where diesel would require a big upgrade.
But what Prius only gets 35 MPG? Did you mean 53MPG? My old Prius with batteries that are getting long in the tooth still gets 40-45 MPG.
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-global-influence-is-gr...
The US is not some magical pollution-free paradise, but at least the air is comfortably breathable here 365 days a year in most places.
It's amusing when the authorities put out an air quality alert here in the DC area. It's important for sensitive populations, but it's almost impossible for a normal person to even notice the difference. A code red air quality day in DC would be a delightfully clear and clean day in Beijing.
They should use cleaner energy solutions because they're killing a shitload of people right now. Dirty coal is only cheaper if you ignore the costs imposed by the pollution.
China has very little regard for civil liberties and human rights, whereas the US government has to at least pay lip service to it.
Of the two there is no debate who is an Autocrat. Xi's opponents went to Jail and the purges are still continuing. How many of Trumps opponents went to Jail? Lets be level headed in conversations here, rather than hyperbole.
But hey, you are welcome to go to China and behind the firewall, if you think its all rocking there!
I don't disagree overall but this is perhaps not the best example to use.
I'm busy stopping friends from promoting conspiracy theories and Hitler comparisons left and far-left. Yet the fear voiced in the comment you're replying to doesn't seem to be completely unwarranted.
One of the key principles of "democratic procedures" is that the courts have final say over all executive activities. It is obvious that this principle is centre to some of the recent tweets saying (paraphrasing from memory) "what has our country come to when a court can <stop me from doing something>". Note how the country hasn't changed a bit and there's a long history of the courts stopping various measures enacted in the name of security. To use an example from the other end of the spectrum: imagine "@prezObama: What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a National Security handgun ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can walk around with a deadly weapon?".
Note that this isn't about the actual policy. It also isn't about complaining about a judge's decision. It's about the assumption in the statement that courts shouldn't have jurisdiction over such matters.
Then surely you support the Republican party? One of their first orders of business after the election was to move to gut Chevron deference[0], a concession by the judicial system towards the executive(essentially, courts would defer the interpretation of a law to the government agencies tasked with enforcing it)[1].
[0] https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5/te...
[1] https://blog.simplejustice.us/2017/01/20/chevron-deference-k...
I wonder if the people who are now wailing and rending their garments were equally horrified when Obama scolded the Supreme Court in a State of the Union speech.
I feel like the shipping and railroad industry is enormous and impenetrable, but there must be some smaller opportunities in here. Even if it's something sort of intangible, like "increasing transparency and fighting corruption". Because you know some percentage of this money went into the wrong pockets.
If you were just a programmer from a western country, how would you even begin to get started in developing markets? Not just this railway project, but Africa and Asia in general. I'm reading things like this [1]:
> China, India and the rest of the developing world will eclipse the west in a dramatic shift in the balance of economic power over the next 50 years.
So I want to be where the growth is happening. How do I do that? Do I need millions of dollars before I can achieve anything? Should I learn Mandarin, Hindi, or Swahili? In the past, I would have had to visit some of these countries and talk to some local entrepreneurs. Now I can just do my own research, meet people online, and have Skype calls. There's really no need to travel in order to find opportunities.
EDIT: I just watched the "Empire of Dust" documentary... That's really eye-opening. I hate to think about how much all of those workers are being paid. Even the Chinese managers. I guess business is business, and they just pay as little as possible. It also seems like it is very difficult to get anything done.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/datablog/2012...
Ethiopia is land-locked and given its not-so-great relationship with Eritrea, uses Djibouti as its primary port. The time-savings of the railway will bring down port-to-Addis shipment times to 12 hours which is awesome considering it can take 3 days now (although the customs process will need to be improved to really speed it up)
It will also reduce the costs necessary to repair the roadways that trucks take to get to Djibouti and back. The incoming lane on these roads is often rutted like crazy due to the weight of the goods and truck drivers are not always the most reliable people.
Ethiopia is also home to one of the fastest growing economies in the world and it is extremely import-dependent. The lower the costs for transit, the lower the costs for the consumer.
RE: wanting to be where the growth is, you really need to be here to see it (I spend most of my time in Ethiopia) You don't have to know the local language and you don't need millions of dollars but you need to have an appetite for risk and be an extremely patient person. Nothing generally works out the way you think it will here so be open to other outcomes and be resilient through it all.
PM if you have any questions.
I don't know anything about Africa or China, but I just spent 1 month backpacking through India doing exactly this: meeting local entrepreneurs (tech industry, non tech, small business, street vendors, etc) and meeting people and families from the north to the south. To really get an appreciation for a market, how the consumers in that market think, and the obvious problems and opportunities around you, you HAVE to go there and see it for yourself. I spent the previous 2-3 years keeping an eye on Indian development from the West, but the 4 weeks I was there eclipsed any prior learning I did. Go visit.
Otherwise, Mandarin isn't that useful actually, as most Chinese you work with will speak better English than your Chinese could ever be, and anyways, finding a bilingual Chinese is not that hard. I'm not sure, from a business perspective, if learning it is productive; but it makes sense from an enrichment perspective.
This seems absolutely insane to me.
That is also ignoring the fact that you can't just take the entire GDP growth and use it to pay the loan, you have to collect fares and taxes which can only be a proportion of that growth. If you collect more in fares than the increase in GDP, you're leaving the country poorer than they would be without the railway.
Djibouti is going to need to see some pretty big additional growth from the railway to make the project worthwhile. Not to say they won't, be it's easy to underestimate just how big of a debt burden it is for a small country.
The train system presumably generates revenue, where the operating income can be used to pay off the debt, rather than paid by tax on the GDP. A train system has transformative benefits to a nation. The benefits are still there long after the debt is gone. The ROI period is way longer than 30 years.
What if (as seems likely) the monotonic growth doesn't materialize? What if there's a recession for a few years and there is a decline?
Taking on debt means taking on risk.
I don't much about the geopolitics or stability of these two countries, but assuming they aren't too unstable, it's hard to imagine that increasing mobility and ease of commerce won't have a sizeable economic boost.
> The loan is worth 475 million USD at the rate of Libor 6 months (0.507%) plus 2.6% with a 3 year grace period and 23 year maturity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_de...
There's another table but it doesn't let you sort by that figure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending#As_a_perce...
It's not necessarily a problem so long as the debt-financed spending accelerates growth. GDP is the amount the economy generates per year. Debt is relatively fixed (unless you borrow more or have a crazy interest rate). As long as the interest on public debt doesn't outpace the tax revenues set aside to service it, they should be fine. Djibouti is a relatively undeveloped country, so infrastructure development can bring them a long way.
Djibouti's national debt seems to be projected to remain fairly stable as a proportion of GDP though, which is a better fiscal position than many.
A different way to express the same situation is that the debt is 7 months of GDP.
The only reason that you see these deals being made is because the Chinese government is interested in Africa's natural resources [1], Chinese companies are competitive in construction (not really rocket science, plus slave labour certainly provides a financial advantage [2] [3]) and government officials stand to personally make money, as nothing gets done in Africa if you don't "properly compensate" the right government officials [4] [5] (european companies know this too, but bribery is sligthly more constrained by their governments).
The end product is usually low quality, with roads cracking open as soon as rain pours, but the goal was not to provide infrastructure in the first place, so no one is remotely concerned about any benefits nor about the impact on local communities, public safety, wildlife or the environment. Guess what happens to anyone that tries to protest on behalf of these issues. [6]
These deals are rarely rosy for the general population, who will still lack water, sanitation, food, jobs and education. Even the few that managed to survive outside of city centers will see their basic livelyhood (cattle, farming) disrupted by these "developments".
PS: I've worked in Angola, Kenya and Nigeria.
[1] http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/china-in-africa-the-...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/201...
[3] https://jamhuri-news.com/how-china-contractors-drove-kenyan-...
[4] https://qz.com/513090/in-south-africa-corruption-is-a-public...
[5] http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000175560/eacc-arres...
[6] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-angola-protest-idUSKCN0X70...
The People in Africans they deserve the world industry's help , again, in real.
Prosperity breaks a lot of these and the evolution of the west came first from economic colonialism and the resulting wealth then spurred on the growth of technology and newer economic, social and political structures.
Without the benefit of colonialism a lot of emerging economies are 'stuck' and they have to deal with extremely powerful and organized entrenched power structures and play by their rules designed to maintain their primacy at all costs.
Isn't this what 'the great game' is? Its got little to do with human rights, humanity, environment or social consciousness. Its purely driven by power, self interest and greed. Its played out in backroom deals, corruption, financial systems, collusion, dirty tricks, geo politics and wars like we see in the middle east and Russia. This is the road China is learning to navigate in Africa. A road already taken by the west 400 years ago. Exciting times ahead.
Is it only me who has problems with this attitude?
As if we didn't have enough frustration from airports located an hour away.
1. Africa != Ethiopia and Djibouti. It's a massive continent 2. "Joyous Africans" conjures up some pretty bad stereotypes 3. The reason they're "joyous" is only because someone else helped them?
Yikes.