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And what to do with people who have to grab the phone or talk?

They have nowhere to isolate because it's a f------- open office.

I have to agree. I wish open offices comes with their own bathroom-stall like cubbies for people who need to jump on a call.

At my company there are meeting rooms, phone rooms, focus rooms, and social common spaces like micro-kitchens you can go to.

So you go there and they're already all taken.

Yep. Never seen an open office company with enough of those. It's a curse.