Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest
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At least at the University level it seems like free speech was an important factor for deciding to allow hosting somebody with such an incendiary message. Here's the chancellor's statement: http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/01/26/chancellor-statement-on-...
For example, would you describe the Black Panthers liberals? Personally I wouldn't. They may share some objectives with liberals - equal treatment of a minority - but methods matter. I would no more call those rioters liberals than I'd call white supremacists 'conservatives'.
Unfortunately, most of the rest of the country thinks otherwise.
There is also the argument that fascism is an existential threat to liberal democracy. See the paradox of tolerance.
And yet they weren't throwing rocks at Bernie because his followers referred to black people as low-information voters. Nor were they protesting Hillary because her followers referred to Obama as a boy.
Do you really not see the double standard?
Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?
Yes. The reason most people are giving for protesting him is that he's racist, and the fact that one of his followers called Leslie Jones an ape is always cited as the reason for why he's racist.
If you don't believe me, look at the reasons the ADL gives for why he's racist:
http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrori...
There's a million reasons to protest this guy. You're missing the forest through the trees, by focusing on only one (That you consider absurd or hypocritical).
Bernie Sanders also didn't speak out in support of a muslim ban, or building a wall, or deporting millions of people... But Milo sure did.
If he held his rally on the lawn, that would be a different story.
This is kind of a natural out growth of the "ends justify the means" philosophy.
Since people replying can't seem to read critically let me clarify. I didn't say ALL or most protests haven't been peaceable. Because you can cite peaceful ones does not mean that there is not a problem because we are clearly having non-peaceful ones too!
do you see the pattern? this is another arab spring ( or color revolution if you prefer ) but this time in the US
seriously, when will the people understand what is really happening?
the aristocracies are trying to reassert their "divine" rights upon the ignorant masses
That's just ignorance. There are people showing up to protest something with the intention of being violent. They weren't there by accident, or random luck. They (those few violent ones) were protestors who had forgotten how to be peaceable.
This event had a set of 10-12 agitators.
I'd say that sounds like more than 10-12, or those 10-12 had a whole lot more "peaceful" supporters supporting/cheering them in their criminal activities.
Additionally, in the age of camera phones and live streaming, the best place to fight/resist cops is in court and not the street. Your chances of success are far greater. I would hope UC Berkeley students would know this.
1) Milo is male.
2) As the university's chief of police says in the article, she does not believe students were involved in the vandalism.
and 3) What qualifies this as "hate speech"?
At this point I'm far more curious about the behavior of the so-called police force last night.
This should tell you exactly where the police stand, vis-a-vis fascism in America.
Not really; they get paid the same either way. Absent a leadership focus on specific categories of crime or groups of offenders, or personal biases, police don't have a lot of incentive to put anybody in jail.
He also lied about being attacked by a white supremacist (Who the victim most certainly was not.)
I watched some of the live streaming of the protests and it was pretty insane - not just "breaking windows" but pepper spraying the opposition, lighting property on fire, throwing molotov cocktails and fireworks, and one instance of beating a guy unconscious and kicking him on the ground.
It wasn't just "breaking windows" and whether you're left, right, or north - you should be vehemently disapproving it.
The violence was all carried out by those trying to shut down the free speech of a gay Jew who only dates black men.
Police have not called it self defense, it's still under investigation. It's really astonishing the amount of misinformation going around about this. It always has to be a false-flag, I guess.
But seriously, I'm not fond of the city of Berkeley, but Milo going there was the equivalent to attempted suicide.
Free speech doesn't mean a college has to give you a platform from which to spew your hate speech. Ironically him threatening to defund them over this is actually a borderline violation of the college's free speech rights.
Almost every programmer I follow on Twitter cheered and praised them while they threw bombs, lit fires, beat and pepper sprayed people. I guess programmers do see themselves as ninjas, after all.