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these types of events usually blow over in a month or so. but it does confirm what everyone already knows: ride hailing apps have no stickiness. at the end of the day no one cares what service provides the car.

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Can someone please help me understand why traditional taxis haven't adapted the same tech as Lyft and Uber? You're right, there really is no moat. Tech is mostly a big ol database. Is it due to disjointure among small companies?

There's a startup called Flywheel that has been selling shovels to taxi cab companies -- in the form of electronic dispatch, payments, navigation and GPS-based metering.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/22/flywheel-expands-uber-like...

And it works fine. I've been using Flywheel since 2013. Their software started out rough, but now it's solid. It may be a bit more expensive, but the average driver I get has been driving in SF more than a decade, so they're knowledgeable and competent. Plus I know they're insured and properly regulated.

They have in a lot of markets, like Denmark and Spain.

Taxi companies are not these monolithic nimble entities, and have multiple parties involved with any transaction - actual driver (independent contractor "renting" the vehicle"), medallion owner, vehicle owner, dispatch service. None have a very strong incentive to differentiate or enough financial resources to break from the pack.

Yellow Cab San Francisco has the YoTaxi app. (I heard about it during one of the few recent times that I took a cab instead of Uber/Lyft since my phone was dead and they advertised it on the back of the passenger seat)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yotaxi/id1046974371?mt=8

there are apps for this. but as a taxi you are subject to fixed prices and regulation. uber and left can undercut them thanks to our glorious fake world of VC money. you don't see taxi drivers handing out free $25 for first time riders

People will care if and when Uber figures out autonomous taxis and can continue their ridiculously low prices without losses.

Probably not even then. Plenty of companies are in the automated-vehicle race. A number of which are a) profitable, and b) worth more than Uber. Some of them also manufacture cars and have decades of vehicle experience to draw on.

Uber made a grab for dominance based mainly on brand (plus massive subsidies). Foolfoolz is right; this suggests that the market just isn't particularly sticky. Brand isn't enough.

At which point that tech too will be a commodity, unless you see Uber having some edge in autonomous cars, and why would they?

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