Just saw this got momentarily flagged into oblivion. The dark forces seem to be gathering.
I applaud this effort by leaders in our community to stand up and not just let this awful bigotry slide by.
I applaud this effort by leaders in our community to stand up and not just let this awful bigotry slide by.
Where's the next good place to be after HN gets gaslighted to not knowing the meaning of words?
Let's not use that term here. It's just an appeal to ridicule dressed up as something meaningful.
Gaslighting, I think, means a kind of manipulation where seeds of doubt are gradually sown, questioning the targets' perception and sanity.
I still think it's a great word to use if someone tries to claim that banning entire countries and their citizens is not racist.
>banning entire countries and their citizens is not racist
Because it's not in most cases (unless a particular race only comes from that set of banned countries). It's xenophobic. Please use the correct terms if you are going to level such strong accusations to such large numbers of people you don't seem to have any understanding of.
After all, the point is ultimately to communicate: if we let strict adherence to a single definition of a word from getting in the way of understanding. Better to just ask what meaning is being used if necessary, while perhaps lamenting the loss in precision in silence.
Yet, week by week, I watch as brand new accounts show up on these types of posts to spout the same short-sighted, toxic talking points that always get vomited out by Trump supporters. They don't say anything related to technology, they always tend to comment on political posts. I've been watching a few accounts and there has been no change in behavior.
This is not a left vs right issue. A lot of these people forgo basic philosophical principles about knowledge, and seem to shun any use of logic and reason (part of the reason you will not get anywhere by engaging them, they simply don't care).
I have noticed this as well and did not mention until recently, thought I was overthinking it. Good to see some others noticing this.
1) Internal american politics: other political issues are promptly flagged, while UK and USA political issues fare better. I do not accept that.
2) Lots of citizens (and others) in the USA are up in arms about this, while the real suffering that the USA is causing around the world (read "killing innocent civilians") does not get noticed anymore. You seem to be outraged about this because it is a new policy which makes the USA look bad, but you do not seem to be outraged in the same way by long standing policies practiced by all US presidents which are actually having a worse impact in the world. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize on his second day on office and did not even close Guantanamo ffs.
The HN community is pretty diverse, including both members who support Trump and those who don't. That diversity is important, because, among other things, I don't think any of us are accurately and wholly described by a single test, ideological or otherwise.
While you might very strongly disagree with members on a particular issue or issues, it's important to remain civil and respectful, even more so on contentious issues.
I don't see how you can think that is selfish or petty, unless you think having yet another thread to just complain in is actually helping anyone.
Either way, I don't want to get into an argument here (obviously), so I'll pop out of this thread now and leave my flag behind. If people want to vouch it out, that's fine too.
There have been plenty of political submissions on HN over the past couple of days. There's been plenty of political discussion on HN over the past couple of days. If people are starting to flag political submissions, it may be because there's a limit of how many political submissions there should be. There's a meaningful difference between "anything but tech" (which is a straw man, anyway, as there are plenty of other submissions that aren't tech yet aren't politics) and having so many political submissions and subsequent discussions that end up covering the same ground without any meaningful discourse.