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You really do need to demonize Trump voters. Most of them are in favor of his horrible policies, and are malicious themselves.

You're never going to get anywhere without recognizing the source of the problem.

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> You're never going to get anywhere without recognizing the source of the problem.

So... Demonize the voters that naively thought Trump would help them more than Hillary? What comes next after they're alienated?

Pragmatically: where are we going to get with you proposed tactic?

You could actually do things to punish them, like boycott their states. Being punitive towards these criminals is perfectly valid.

Liberals have the wealth in the country that the Trump voters want. You don't have to give it to them.

If liberals want to keep the wealth for themselves and not share it, are they still liberals? Sounds like a koan.

You're right. We liberals are supposed to give our money to criminals.

And other people's money too.

Only if they're hard workers, and are sweet and innocent.

It's very simple: make it socially unacceptable to promote the ethnic cleansing of a religion comprised of nearly a billion people, 99.999% of whom are decent, peaceful people who share the same types of dreams, goals and values as the rest of us.

This wouldn't be the first time we've had to confront bigots who want to eliminate entire groups of people because they have a different skin color or pray to a different sky-man. And we didn't get rid of them by playing nice or trying to split the difference.

Rather, whether we're talking about slave-owners in the 1860s or fasicists the 40s, we've faced this menace before and stamped them out the promotors of hate and division. And we will do it again.

It is already socially unacceptable to promote ethnic cleansing of any sort. Sure, it's important to continually affirm this, but can you name anyone in the Trump administration who is promoting ethnic cleansing?

> can you name anyone in the Trump administration who is promoting ethnic cleansing?

All of them, since that's the purpose of this administration

Just as every one of Hitler's cabinet-level ministers was deemed at the very least complicit in that regime's crimes against humanity, so it every single one of Trumpf's cronies guilty for being an enabler of these disgusting, hateful, racist and un-American violations of fundamental human rights.

Every last one of them needs to be brought to justice and called to account for their inaction in the face of ethnic cleansing once this illegitimate "president" is finally impeached (and mark my word, that day is coming much sooner than you think). Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Seriously, a green card is a fundamental right now? I know plenty of people that were denied Visas to the US all of them are "white privileged" and most of them are "males", all of which either studied in the US or wanted to work there after completing a master's program or a PHD, all of which have successfully passed interviews and some of the most rigorous hiring processes in the industry.

By using this infantile rhetoric and making every statement at best a hyperbole and at worse a complete fabrication you are doing a great disservices for your cause.

You talk about ethnic cleansing like you know it, while ignoring the true horrors that go around the world, you gladly ignore what is happening in Africa, Asia, heck I would also take a big presumption and assume you were in the camp that was against a no fly zone and intervention in Syria.

From all your statements you seem to ignore the plight of millions in favor a the privileged few, because give me a break a honor student from Iran that can't get back into the country and now is facing with having to switch her PHD from MIT to another uni if it's not resolved isn't a 9 year old schoolgirl sold into slavery. Even the true "refugees" that come to the US are the privileged few that could afford spending as much as 50,000$ to get to the US and to have their asylum request processed. Is this right, no, is this unfair yes, is this sad yes, but this isn't tragic, this isn't a travesty, what is a travesty is the likes of you shaming artists on twitter that commit the greatest sin of scheduling gigs in Israel while ignoring the rape and murder of 100,000's of people around the world.

There is a book I recently read:

https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-De...

This is a book about negotiation written by a hostage negotiator. It was an eye-opener that I needed.

One of the key principles is that you don't accuse or attack (something I still need to work on myself).

In sales training seminars, that would be one tactic. Other valid tactics include the frontal attack.

How well do you think the aggressive tactics work in long-term relationships? How well do you think they work when you're in the weaker position (e.g. when your side controls neither congress nor the white house)?

And more specifically, how well do you think they worked in this election?

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