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Exaclty. Two of his biggest campaign promises were to build a wall to keep out Mexicans and to ban Muslims immigrants and refugees. The wall was one of his earliest campaign promises. I find it amazing that we're supposed to believe that the majority of Trump voters don't support at least one of these.

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Note, this is far broader than the refugee ban initially discussed. The ban truly is a Muslim ban. See quote from Reuters -- it bans permanent residents (i.e. greencard holders.) Note that permanent residents have to pay taxes even if living overseas!

"It will bar green card holders," Gillian Christensen, acting Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in an email.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-gree...

Too bad it doesn't ban individuals from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (because if it was about islamism, it should)

Also, banning permanent residents is just ludicrous

Muslims, then GC holders. Very soon, certain group of citizens will suffer the same fate.

The prison walls are getting closer... By the time you're able to reach out and touch them, it'd be too late.

Quite. Historically, countries which build walls don't do so to keep people out, but to keep them in.

Well, that didnt take long. The definition is about to get broader, per WSJ:

In a statement that the State Department is due to release, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, the 90-day visa moratorium extends beyond just citizens of Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Libya, and Yemen.

It also applies to people who originally hail from those countries but are traveling on a passport issued by any other nation, the statement notes. That means Iraqis seeking to enter the U.S. on a British passport, for instance, would be barred, according to a U.S. official...."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-visa-ban-also-applies-to-c...

Here's a non-paywall-ed version.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-visa-ban-also-applies...

Those nationals or dual nationals holding valid immigrant or nonimmigrant visas will not be permitted to enter the United States during this period. Visa interviews will generally not be scheduled for nationals of these countries during this period.

That is very, very broad.

Huh. My next door neighbor is an American citizen, born in Iran. He left before the Shah was deposed. He owns a successful local company. Sounds like this would apply to him.

No wonder I haven't heard from them in a few months.

He's an American citizen so he can't be denied entry.

* As long as he is not a dual citizen.

It is a ban on people coming from certain countries. Religion isn't anyone in there.

It is specifically for Muslims. Notice there is a special provision inviting Christian refugees from Syria (albeit a token quantity just for show.)

> I find it amazing that we're supposed to believe that the majority of Trump voters don't support at least one of these.

I'm taking a guess at this one, but many people believed this was just the usual pre-election bla bla and that he wouldn't follow through with such an unreasonable idea, given the obvious financial (wall) and legal (Muslim ban) challenges. They only wanted someone who promised to listen to them again after decades of globalization left them behind, and got a monster as result.

What I'm really afraid of: given the horrendous stuff Trump has done in a week, what will he have done in the next 1450 days?

It bans some Muslim immigrants and refugees.

I don't recall seeing anything about Indonesians being affected, or Indians, or Nigerians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, etc.

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