Ask HN: Hacker Hobbies?
What hobbies do you have?
What do you do to wind down when you're afk?
What hobbies do you have?
What do you do to wind down when you're afk?
A lot of fascinating older people play the game, as well. I met a small business owner who was formerly the first computer salesman for a major mainframe company--IIRC it was Honeywell, but don't quote me on that. At least one famous international financier occasionally shows up to the bridge clubs in Chicago (unfortunately I've never ran into him).
The downside is it's hard to find a critical mass of bridge players in your age and "hang-out-ness" category.
It's certainly much more interesting then poker though!
The typical chess mental game involves chains of calculations to visualize future positions, then evaluating those positions based on the potential of good or bad chains of moves. "Strategic" plays are based on the possibility of generating or preventing future tactical plays.
Bridge is more a game of inferences; out of the 26 or 39 cards you can't see (depending on the phase of play), the most important part of the game is guessing how those cards are distributed and planning for the contingencies that might arise (or the ones you need to arise). There are very few situations that involve long chains of calculations and possible positions; most of it is planning correctly, estimating probabilities (unless you're one of those talented people who can do the exact math in their heads), and good guesswork. Or at least that's how I play it...
It's very refreshing to play a game that works out those areas of the mind, which are so important, but for which there are few direct workouts. The best play is usually clear post-mortem, and hands change every 7 or 8 minutes, so you get a lot of quick, direct feedback.
The second most important part of bridge is communicating with your partner based on the limited language of putting cards down on a table, and the reason it's not the first most important part is because communicating correctly depends on inferring correctly, planning, and understanding partner's plans.
Techzing
Mixergy
Radiolab
Floss Weekly
Stack Overflow (no recent podcasts from Joel and Jeff however)
Many people don't know much about it, but it's a beautiful sport. (Martial art, not dance. Common misconception is that it's non-contact - it's only non-contact if you move fast enough!) I particularly enjoy it because of the associated culture and traditions.
(In case anyone's interested, here are some videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8xxgFpK-NM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q1VB_dDik Feel free to email me if you have questions.)
Now I do climbing (no, it's not as hard on the wrists). As much as I enjoyed Capoeira, I have to say, that I enjoy the whole "me vs the wall" aspect - especially bouldering. I suppose it's because I'm an introvert. :)
Bouldering is unique because while some people do it alone, others consider it the most social form of climbing.
This may sound childish, but I also really enjoy building and playing with LEGOs. I just have a few sets but I constantly rebuild them and I find it is an interesting thing to do while listening to music.
When it comes to cooking, I do it daily. Love doing Italian and French Cuisine and just sometimes picking at random from one of my cook books. I find the entire process very relaxing and a nice removal after sitting on my ass for 8 hours doing code.
Apart from cooking I love gardening, growing herbs, etc. It goes very nicely with my cooking hobby so it works.
I find the best thing about gardening is how close you get to the rawness that is mother earth. It's another nice way to step back into reality after staring at the computer screen.
What the hell is the North American system?
I didn't mean to much harm, but in summary .. we are not educated about food/cooking in elementary or secondary school (There are classes, but fully optional) .. and well, look at what most people in America eat. Snobby? Sure, but it's true.
/club ultimate player
I think the fact that most people classify those activities as "hobbies" says a lot about the lives we construct for ourselves: Spend 50 weeks per year doing something unpleasant so that you free up a couple weeks to do something you actually enjoy. If you enjoy your hobby as much as you say, why not find a way to devote at least half your time to it?
These days I live in England, so there's tons of climbing at my doorstep and surfing happens in month-long blocks a couple times a year. That's actually preferable, since you get warm water and smaller crowds in Morocco/Ecuador/Oz.
I also set aside an hour or two a day to read classic literature, or hard-to-read literature. My favorites are epic poems. Currently on page 53 of Finnegans Wake and I've been hearing rhythmic gibberish in my sleep. I'm reading Finnegans Wake so I can feel good about reading everything by Joyce, and I'm actually finding it really pleasurable.
There's more, but those two things are what I enjoy most.
Didgeridoo...
What a bummer to have to pay for your medical bills out of pocked, weren't you insured ?
As for the medical bills, well I was pretty young and felt invincible. That delusion was thoroughly shot down.
About the young and invincible thing, I think that the sooner you realize that is not the case the better it actually is, because it will rub in really hard that you have to take care of your body.
Investment early in life really pays off big time in that respect.
I've been playing for a while now.
The contrast from coding intrinsic to vegetable gardening is especially satisfying - one can sit back and watch the fruits of one's labor manifest themselves. When one codes, one knows that his inactivity results in nothing. Not so with gardening, aside from some maintenance, the initial work constitutes a self-fulfilling promise.
> rigging old microwaves to melt copper
Whoa. I guess you're still here to type about it . . .
One great resource for metalcasting is Backyard Metal Casting. www.backyardmetalcasting.com He will probably answer any question you could possibly have about casting.
Good luck!
"When the Iron doesn’t want to come off the mat, it’s the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn’t teach you anything. That’s the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble. That which you work against w...ill always work against you." - Henry Rollins
"The Iron never lies to you ... The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hndred pounds is always two hundred pounds."
2. Playing music. This is my creative outlet. I play several instruments, and using music theory to create music is a different sort of way to be analytical and creative at the same time. I've always thought of music as the most universal way for people to appreciate math in its purest form, even if they don't realize it.
3. Bowling and Golf. Both are "sports" in that they are competitive and involve physical activity, but they can both be done alone and on my own time. They are also both very physics-based games which satisfies my need for mental engagement; consequently this makes me "that guy" in group bowling outings that takes it a bit too seriously :)
In addition to training, I also run a little news aggregator for it (built it for myself). Here: http://mmabuzzsaw.com/
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In addition to that I love cycling, wakeboarding, cooking, and lots more but they mostly all involve getting out of the house and away from a computer.
My friend and I started http://brewadvice.com (based on the Stack Exchange) platform. The community has been very helpful.
edit: I was also curious about this, and created a similar thread a while ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=862139
I first got into climbing by scrambling around boulders on the Sonoma coast, mainly by myself. I had so much fun. When I found out that it was an actual sport that other people did, I was hooked.
A ton of other programmers I know climb as well (we had an engineering offsite at Planet Granite in SF a few months ago), and I also see a ton of Googlers and other software people at Mission Cliffs on a regular basis.
I used to go to Planet Granite in both SF and Sunnyvale and I got to meet a number of startup guys.
I usually do bouldering since I have no regular belay partner.
Initially I had the impression it was a 'light' activity which mainly women practice, but after taking a couple of Ashtanga sessions I was floored :-) I recommend you give it a try.
[edit] Also, working in an industrial kitchen. Nothing like getting your hands dirty that takes your mind off brainy matters like programming.
In the end IMHO the best hacker hobbies are the ones that are mentally nothing like hacking at all.
I'm also into street photography: running a photoblog where I post a photo every workday (http://journal.boblycat.org/cosmozoo). Still going strong since 2005 or so, and I concur it's a great compliment to screen-gazing.
Nice pictures :) I wish I could keep up a shoot rate of one a day... Nothing kills the creative eye quite like code all day ;)
At night, and in the winter, I play videogames: Quake Live is a great game to play for 10-30 minute sessions. League of Legends, and now Bloodline Champions is fun to play with a few friends.
I like to ride, too, but have been sick an awful lot this year, due to our daughter being in nursery school and picking up a nasty array of diseases.
Not only is it a relaxing/rewarding hobby it encourages me to eat better and helps save me money on my groceries!
It's great to have a hobby that involves a lack of analytical thought, just your immediate surroundings and some physical effort to expend.
Keeps me sane when I live and work downtown, and type at a keyboard in front of three screens day-in day-out.
-any board sport (surfing, snowboarding, wakeboarding)
-high altitude hiking/mountaineering
-outdoor photography http://picasaweb.google.com/michael.atwood/PublicPhotos#
-weight lifting/power lifting
-basketball
I do daily drawings, but sometimes I make two or three depending on the time available and circumstances. Does that count as afk? :)
Some things I want to take up include; boxing, photography and diving. (Even though I can't swim, and all animals in the water freak me out.)
Definitely a great way to get out, move around, and stay focused.
I'm also a classical violinist and play in a local (amateur but quite good) symphony orchestra.
I believe that's more of a public service. :)
What's not to love, really? Binary math, simple axiomatic formal system, seriously deep complexity. It's no coincidence that Conway's early fundamental work on cellular automata was done on a Go board with Go stones.
I don't know how easy it is to learn there, though. Playing offline, there's usually a stronger player around who can notice specific mistakes that I make and explain them to me after the game. ("You're being too submissive", "this is bad shape - play here instead".) Without them, I imagine I'd still find out what works, but I would improve much more slowly.
Reading (in the sense of fiction literature). History, philosophy, political science (really another form of reading). Travel. Exercise.
Often times it helps to hack on things that _seemingly_ aren't related to your work (even if you like your work). I've spent good chunk of today writing my own graph library: for learning and scratching a personal itch; if I wanted a real one I'd use Boost (best imo), JGraphT or JUNG. Chances are, however, that it may come in handy e.g., I'll need to find the shortest path in an ad-hoc graph, but the scope I'll have at hand wouldn't justify adding additional dependencies.
Variety is the spice of life.
Video for the curious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRZF7IqakI
Photography, bicycling, listening to and playing music, wrenching on anything mechanical (currently putting a clutch in a 1990 Miata). That includes fixing electronics, too. Although I commute by bicycle and ride most places that I need to go to, I dearly enjoy driving for the sake of driving, autocrossing, etc.
I design fantasy vehicles in my head, and all the elaborate user interface bits that go along with them. Sometimes, I doodle parts of things down on paper, but most of my ideas are in my head.
I don't play computer games, but in real life, I like Chess, pool, scrabble, Monopoly and bowling.
My dream would be kayaking the glaciers at banff national park, alberta canada. That turquoise lake is just a feast to the eyes, and the soul.
Anything goes: soccer, volleyball, squash, or rarely some water sports. I follow a lot of sports too.
That and the usual; cooking, reading (fantasy and science fiction,) social gaming with friends, running, cycling, and (when I get round to learning how) swimming.
Those are the expensive ones.
Karaoke, reading, diving, exercising, and writing are the cheaper ones
Diving is cheap because you can keep gear to a minimum and take cheap diving trips. It's expensive because you can also buy pricey gear, take trips to exotic places, and pay for a lot of instruction and amenities.
One of the things I like about diving is that not only is it fun, depending on where you live it can also be very cheap
I'm not "rich" by any means, but I run out of vacation time well before I run out of money to dive...
...but yeah, I just play video games, watch movies, read books, and code side projects. A former roommate gave me a bunch of his old PS2 games, mostly JRPGs, and they need to get played one of these days.
And if #1 helps #3 I can assume you're a Django Reinhardt fan.
On the non-sports side: Clarinet, learning sax, going to shows, dancing, writing music, cooking, sitting in trees and reading.
Cooking: definitely a favorite way to decouple from my work day.
Music: I gave up on the guitar after 40 years but I now enjoy the Didgeridoo and Native American flute.
Radio is not always AFK, as everyone uses keyboards these days.
Physical and artistic hobbies just to get away from analytical thinking.
Also make infographics for the fun of it.
just to round it out with videos of the other weapons: