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Tesla to Transition to ‘Fully Self-Driving’ Features in ‘3 to 6 months’

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26 pointsilaksh19 comments

No no no, this is mis-quoted...

He said, "Full Self-Driving Capability Features", with FEATURES being the VERY important word that is left out. Please fix the title. The article mentions it and is right, but the title on the article and on HN is misleading.

The question asked to Elon was, when will we start to see full self-driving features that go beyond what the enhanced auto pilot gives you. These are marketing/branding names that Tesla gives to the two levels you can buy today. Of course you are prepaying for them, as no "full self-driving FEATURE" is available yet. His answer though said 3 - 6 months for when we will see the first feature that is NOT included in the "Enhanced Auto-Pilot" but only in the top level you can buy, "Full Self-Driving".

In no way/shape/or form did he mean level 5, fully self-driving Tesla's in 3-6 months.

Twitter context: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/823727035088416768

If you read through the tweet replies you only get a few replies in before people start making that mistake there as well.

As a software engineer I can appreciate how not having a "Definition of Done" can cause confusion.

Thanks, we've updated the submission title.

The character limit is very stupid and causes a lot of problems. I had a much longer title that was close to the article title or tweet but it would not accept anything like that.

That sounds extremely deceptive regardless. Why would you use the term "fully self driving" in the first place if you have to qualify it with something that makes it not fully SD?

That's like advertising a "full half-dozen eggs" or "unlimited access with restrictions".

Presumably the strategy will be that the car is autonomous as long as it's more than 1/32" away from any obstacle, and switches to manual control when closer.

I hear they have a marvelously low crash rate in autonomous operation.

In any case fully self driving in San Jose is not fully self driving in Minnesota in the winter.

As a fully charged battery is not the same in San Jose as a fully charged battery in Minnesota in the winter.

I'll take the "Over".

This site is now writing "articles" about every Musk tweet?

I'm curious, does anyone know what's gonna be the strategy for situations like this[1], where the entire traffic is regulated purely by people looking into each others eyes?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJ588dNQ6M

I think sometimes mods should interfere when post titles are this egregiously off. But to be fair, how would they know unless they were familiar with every subject posted.

The character limit was the problem. But the reality is that Tesla sold self-driving cars and have promised they will be self driving (even if not in all circumstances) by the end of 2017. Musk is saying here it will be able to navigate freeways including taking exits and onramps and handle many other situations without the driver normally having to take control and those features will be out within 6 months.

TLDR the title is limited to 80 characters but the real problem is people are in denial.

N00b question, is this tech only on the Model S or is it available on all of the Teslas?

It usually doesn't depend on the model but on the hardware level. Tesla's Model S has had major updates at a pretty high rate, and in 2016 Tesla introduced a new generation of autopilot hardware (more / better sensors). I suspect most new advanced self driving features will only be available on cars with that level of autopilot hardware (which is available as an option on all Model S and Model X cars, and probably model 3 too).

The sensors are not an option with S and X. The capability is an option.

Not sure why anyone would buy a sports car that drives itself. Sports cars are supposed to be about the fun of driving.

I'm not sure why anyone would slot any Tesla product as a sports car. Straight-line acceleration in short bursts is fine, but the car is too heavy to make it corner well and the batteries overheat if you try to track it.

I wouldn't really call the Model S a sports car, it's more in line with say the MB S or SL AMG cars, a highway-eating monster.

The Model S isn't a sports car, it's a large luxury sedan that happens to have an extremely fast 0-60 time.

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