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dotnetisnotdead

See this is the problem. Way too much groupthink nowadays. Do you honestly think Fox News is all fake? Hint: it's not.

I'm a lifelong democrat but here's where last November's events hit me even harder than most: I know we earned it.

We've been allowing CNN, MSNBC, etc to slam Trump left and right. Does he deserve it? Of course he does! The problem is they stand from an authority position with presumed partiality and they are absolutely biased. News flash folks: the giant cheeto is absolutely right about that. And they DO NOT get right 100% of the time, yet Fox News does the same thing and we slam them for it! It's absolute nonsense and it's how we got here. By being divided and pretending we aren't doing what our "enemy" is.

The MLK bust thing is a great example. The crowds? Not that it should even matter but the picture being passed around and paraded all over CNN and 10,000 memes everywhere was a picture taken BEFORE the inauguration got under way. Though I do not believe Trump had a bigger crowd than Obama, it was bigger than what CNN was showing you and making a big deal out of it.

These. Things. Matter.

There are so many simple examples, if you call Fox News fake you have to call all of them fake.

You can watch a timelapse of the whole inauguration at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg which shows that the image shared was correct.

even if it is which it's still not completely clear since there is no timestamp on that, it doesn't take into account many factors such as the widespread claim that security into the event was excessive and many people couldn't get in on time, nor the fact that for Obama there was a much larger local turn out, nor the fact that MANY people stayed home out of fear of violence from the left etc. The point is, the media making a story about attendance numbers was nothing more than a swipe at his legitimacy and THAT is the problem.

And the security checkpoints were choked at noon. I'm willing to bet that most people were trying to get in (me, for one) and got videos to show for it.

>You can watch a timelapse of the whole inauguration.

Very misleading video. That video doesn't show the whole day.

Here is a picture showing the crowds later in the day.

https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg

That video only show earlier in the day, before people started filling it up, as indicated by the time-stamp here...

http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png

Here's a photo closer to the end, showing the crowds goes all the way to the back, almost comparable to Obama's.

https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f...

Fox News has been doing the fake/biased news thing for a long time: http://johnhaller.com/useful-stuff/faux-news

Plus, your post is literally buying into the 'media downplayed Trump's crowd' and the 'picture was taken before the inauguration' fake news story. The picture was taken at the peak. They even released the video to prove it. Trump's crowd was about on par with George W Bush's. In other words, less than half the size of Obama's 2009 crowd.

>They even released the video to prove it.

Very misleading video. That video doesn't show the whole day.

Here is a picture showing the crowds later in the day.

https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg

That video only show earlier in the day, before people started filling it up, as indicated by the time-stamp here...

http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png

Here's a photo closer to the end, showing the crowds goes all the way to the back, almost comparable to Obama's.

https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f...

>Fox News has been doing the fake/biased news thing for a long time...

It's ironic that Fox news was so biased before. But this election, Fox News did good. Fox was the only news media that actually show both sides of the story, while the rest of the news media were overwhelmingly biased against Trump.

The front low-angle picture is the one Trump fans use to "disprove" the story. Its angle hides the swaths of empty space that were filled during Obama's first inauguration. Not to mention that the low-angle front picture obscures the Obama 2009 crowd spilling out the sides.

The picture you linked was taken earlier in the day, but is not the one used in the comparisons on news sites. That picture was taken around the time the Obama 2009 one was taken and shows Trump's crowd slightly more filled in: http://i.imgur.com/17nLdRl.jpg

Obama's inauguration broke all records and Trump's didn't come close. The scary point is that Trump felt the need to lie about it. They even admitted it with their "alternative facts" line. Openly lying about things that are demonstrably false is his way of distracting from other issues.

Your photo showing Trump had little people actually came from 8 AM in the morning, as by the upload time-stamp here:

http://imgur.com/cLiofdu

Notice the time-stamp.

The following photo show way more people: https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg

Here is a photo showing near back end, showing the crowds goes all the way to the back, almost comparable to Obama's.

https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f...

Incorrect. Compare it to your 8am photo and it is much more filled in. Please post another rear image from the Washington monument to properly compare the two. Or keep posting low-angle front-shot photos to fit your personal narrative.

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