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Sensible choices in a nutshell: If you live in a 5-eyes nation, don't use or buy services hosted or operated from a 5 eyes nation. If you don't live in a 5 eyes nation, only use services hosted and operated from Iceland or Switzerland.( Nation states are the #1 threat, and your own nation is always the most dangerous one. )

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> If you live in a 5-eyes nation, don't use or buy services hosted or operated from a 5 eyes nation

The 5 eyes spy globally. U.S. citizens are the only ones with legal protection and (limited) recourse for U.S. government spying, AFAIK.

If a U.S. citizen uses a French or Icelandic mail host, I suspect the U.S. foreign intelligence agencies have free reign to spy on them. I wonder what the limits are for the FBI and other domestic agencies.

Irrelevant due to intelligence laundry.

No this is completely backwards. Use services that have security properties addressing the threats that matter to you. Simply adding 'hosted in Iceland' to something that's ineffective isn't going to help you. Having a server in Iceland did absolutely nothing for DPR, for instance.

Schweiz is in the EU. We are subject to its data-retention laws. Consider Norway.

Schweiz / Switzerland is not in the EU. It has agreements with the EU (EFTA), but it certainly is not a member of the EU.

Schweiz is in the EU.

I don't think it is. See https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/countries_en

So many ignorant people talking here...

Absolutely not, stop spreading false information

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