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Pyramid is great, but for years they had a ridiculous Iron Maiden- heavy metal like branding [0] which make it hard to sell it in the corporate world. I'm glad they evolved on this point.

[0] http://keitheis.github.io/use-pyramid-like-a-pro/?full#Cover

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I don't mind the artwork (and actually like it), but I think the real issue is the text:

    Use Pyrapid Like a Pro

"Like a pro(fessional)" implies that you, the target audience, are not "professionals". However, if you use it in the corporate world, you do use it as a professional.

This makes it sound like an advanced toy rather than a bullet-proof work of engineering you can rely on. Which is really a pity, because Pyramid _is_ a framework you can rely on.

Not gonna lie, that cover(?)/artwork(?) looks pretty sweet. But I'm probably biased because I really like Iron Maiden.

I agree, but you know what; I think the new branding is worse :(

It's a shame, because I've wanted to try Pyramid since I watched their talk at PyCon 2011, but the branding (including the new 99 Designs looking logo / theme) has always made me think, "This will never really take off."

Not to mention, a few parts / typical components of pyramid are kind of nuts, like auth. Colander is also a struggle to use.

Still my go-to framework though. The websauna framework linked above might be something I have to try.

As I build more and more side projects I find myself wishing pyramid were just a bit more opinionated so I could get the basics up and running a tad faster. At this point I mostly cut up old projects and port them to each next one, heh

One of the off-putting remarks I get is, "what is this, a pyramid scheme?". I don't like the name, they should have stuck with Pylons.

If like me you really liked the slides, this is the framework/engine https://github.com/shower/shower

The theme is one of the included ones, Ribbon.

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