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I would guess it's common for a team to be in a disfunction environment but stick together for the sake of the team and friendships. Once one person leaves though, everyone then leaves in succession.

I'm in that position now. If a PM who I highly respect leaves I'll probably leave as well because I wouldn't want to deal with the stuff he protects us from. I also wouldn't want to abandon this guy, so I probably won't leave as long as he is here.

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I've been through this once and it was enough for me.

In retrospect, I should have left way earlier. I urge you to consider whether, by staying, you are just enabling the sort of disfunction you dislike :)

Camaraderie is great and if there is actual friendship/respect then the relationship will continue even after you quit.

> Camaraderie is great and if there is actual friendship/respect then the relationship will continue even after you quit.

I can attest to this. Half my team has left over the past year, the other half all seem to be (and talking about) actively looking. We all still manage to get a poker night together every few months, as well as having a quite lively group text chat.

Yep, been there. To be honest, nothing much changed when I left. The org was big enough that by leaving I wasn't doing catastrophic damage, so I had no leverage there. By staying, I was just allowing them to bleed me dry a bit longer. Took me too long to realise that and get out.

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