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They will JIRA-fy it or kill it. I use JIRA and pay for it, it is hell on earth for teams of 2-5. We looked into switching to trello to reduce overhead but... It cost more for less features. So we stayed with JIRA.

They will kill trello so everyone is stuck with JIRA. Someone please make a trello clone with reasonable pricing, now!

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> They will JIRA-fy it or kill it.

Atlassian is not Oracle. I had fears for BitBucket when they bought it, but they seem to have left it alone for the most part.

Sourcetree, on the other hand, got fucked up. How much of that was a strategic decision and how much just plain incompetence (either by Atlassian or the original team), I don't really know.

Bitbucket has been a bit Atlassified a bit.. Hipchat plugins are at the root of the system and it's just a question of time before they require hip-chat to be there for some functionality to work. Don't believe me?

An example of this was the integration of HipChat in confluence. Product was fine but now requires HipChat X amount of plugins to be installed (to be able to insert Emojicon's in Confluence, using confluence own menu's).

Trello was ridiculously cheap. I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper.

$10/user/mo for Trello seems pretty expensive to me. It's a very basic product.

They don't care about selling it to you though when they can sell it to the IBMs. To be fair we probably own licenses to everything. I know we have used github enterprise on the watson side.

...it should only need to save you like an hour of one person's time per month to pay for itself for five users. Products can be extremely basic and still be worthwhile in that price range.

Trello, the head-and-shoulders best project management software for individuals and small teams no matter the type of project and despite the literal hundreds of competitors, is "very basic"…

A tool that could save all employees of a company dozens of hours a month for $10 is expensive…

Hacker News, what the actual fuck. The total and complete lack of respect for the art of design, programming, hacking, making, building, leading and creating software around here astounds me.

I was a Trello Gold user before they added the Enterprise tier. They seem to have completely forgotten Gold exists because all of their new features are Enterprise-only. I ended up just going back to a free plan.

>"I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper."

Better tell the Wekan team they're wasting their time then. ;-)

https://wekan.io/

It's not a hosted service, its downloadable and open source.

Big difference.

Free hosts that could run Wekan exist.

Yeah but if my team has lots of inactive users that starts to add up.

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