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Comment by willvarfar | Hacker News Reader

So Fog Creek - makers of Fogbugz, which lost out bigtime to JIRA - have now sold Trello to Atlassian? Is there nothing left of Fogbugz?

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Nothing but this here big steaming nine-figure pile of cash...

They spin out each of their products (Stack Overflow, Trello) as separate corporations so Fog Creek didn't own Trello.

Edit: I guess the spinning-out doesn't say anything about ownership (though the article does say Trello did a round of funding after the spin-out)

Stack was never owned by Fog Creek was it? I thought the only relation was that they shared Joel as a co-founder.

that was my understanding as well, although there has occasionally been stuff written that suggested more too.

There was a blog post very recently where they said they will double down on http://gomix.com now.

We're definitely investing in Gomix and we'll be revitalizing FogBugz this year, too — especially for folks who don't find Jira a satisfying or delightful way to work.

I can't figure out what Gomix is...

Iirc it's a simplified PaaS for JS, like ipython notebook / pythonanywhere.

My understanding: Resurrect HyperCard/QBasic/Visual Basic online.

You get a live web editor + hosting and you can easily publish childish web apps ... uh MVPs.

On a side note -- I don't know if they still do it (I believe they do), but Fog Creek used to give out free Fogbugz cloud accounts (2 user limit) to startups and students.

It is kind of a shame, I found the way the filters on Fogbugz to be a pretty interesting interface.

I work at fogcreek, and fogbugz is definitely not going anywhere :)

Oh, I did not mean that. It is a shame it did not "win". There were other design choices I did not like, but I loved the way the filter worked.

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