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> Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation

> Calling women fat and unattractive for their use of birth control is not hate speech

Something isn't quite lining up here...

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Calling someone fat and unattractive is NOT hate speech.

Besides, whatever happened to just ignoring it and getting on with one's life? It is this constant cry-bully public outcry and constant whinging that has propelled people like Milo into the daily news cycle.

Right, calling a person fat and unattractive isn't hate speech. Calling "women fat and unattractive for using birth control" is. Nice strawman though.

Strawman-schrawman....

Your threshold for hate speech much be pretty low if you think "fat and unattractive" fits the definition.

People on the first list don't get to choose who they are.

People on the second list make a conscious decision to use birth control.

Thus the two are different.

Same way hating men in general would be misandric. Hating men who do X is not.

The only people who use birth control are women, it's definitely an attack on women to attack birth control. And some women don't get a choice to use birth control, there are medical issues which necessitate stabile hormones. Unless you ask, you have no idea why a women is on birth control.

> The only people who use birth control are women

Condoms

Well now we're having a semantic debate. Birth control = prevents birth only. Condoms = prevent birth and STIs.

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