Comment by sean_patel | Hacker News Reader

Comment by sean_patel | Hacker News Reader

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> So, they're higher skilled yet are put to work on low-skill tasks? This is a fantastical proposition.

Correct. And your snarkiness aside, it's true. I have several (Indian) cousins and a couple of uncles / aunties (came as Mainframe / COBOL programmers) who have attested to the same.

Even in the Financial Services companies I interned at ( Goldman) and worked at in the past, I've noticed by way of water cooler discussions and whispers that Indian and Chinese H1B works get significantly lower pay -- I'm talking a 30% to 40% lower pay -- than their (mostly white) American counterpart. Many in the exact same Job Title, Role / Grade and Job Description.

We also used to offload our Unit Testing and documentation work to these H1B and they did it without complaining. Most of them dream of getting their Green Card and freedom when they can charge Market rate and not be bound to their H1B sponsor / employer.

Regardless, the H1-B program is sold to the public as a way to bring over highly-skilled individuals into roles that require those higher skills.

Yet, time and again we see that the emperor has no clothes: these programs are used to import labor from overseas because it's cheap.

I can't speak to any abuse of these programs, but as a US citizen I value my co-workers on H1-Bs and want them to stay.

I would rather we make them full citizens not bound by threat of deportation so they can shop their skills around to the highest bidder rather than being used to depress wages for all.

If we are too stupid to see the benefits we derive from making them part of our nation I would rather we send them home.

Leaving the status quo as is would be the worst option.

Without sounding snarky or condescending, you should educate yourself about the H1-B program and about the ways how it is abused. It is as bad as those who have gone though it make it sound.

And I haven't met any of them who would prefer it gone entirely...

Your distaste isn't remotely as great as it ought to be.

I ought to have distaste for them? No.

Sure I'd reform the program, but I am glad that they can come here and so are they. I would be upset if they couldn't anymore and so would they.

Sorry to say, I don't think reforming the program with applicants in mind is on the table in this administration.

> We also used to offload our Unit Testing and documentation work to these H1B

:( Unit Testing shouldn't be considered low-skill monotonous work.

This sort of attitude creates reams of unit tests that do nothing but slow down progress. Like everything, unit tests need to be well written they become technical debt.

It's disturbing that this post, which reflects reality was downvoted.

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