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Scientists in Germany, Peru and Taiwan to Lose Access to Elsevier Journals

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How about "Scientists in Germany, Peru and Taiwan to Rightfully Dump Elsevier Journals" ?

Or maybe "Librarians in Germany, Peru and Taiwan to Rightfully Dump Elsevier Journals" ?

Title is inaccurate. The scientists in question can simply go to sci-hub and input the DOI to access the Elsevier articles.

We need more heroes like Alexandra Elbakyan.

This isn't a solution because, while yes, it does allow them to access some/all of the specific journals and articles the academics would need to use, but the schools/country aren't going to advocate for this since they want the contract with Elsevier in general even if they don't like the terms.

It isn't a solution in theory, but it's a great solution in practice.

You're right that the schools won't advocate so-called piracy, but they don't seem to care too much about dropping the subscriptions either.

This is an excellent solution. Schools should really advocate for this. The law is counter-productive in it's current form.

Unless the article is not available there

I think science is at an interesting point. We've just had our Napster moment with Sci-hub. We'll soon have our Youtube moments with Authorea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa1ObxI_dqU) and the rise of preprints in new disciplines, In short, I see self-publishing and dissemination increasing in the coming years.

Maybe we'll have our Justin Bieber of research quite soon!

Authorea looks cool, but you should probably disclose in the comment that you are associated with it. You might even get more attention to it that way, too.

I think you mean Tay Zonday.

In subjects like physics journals are already an anachronism as everything is published and referred via arXiv anyway.

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13187315

Why not change "publish or perish" to "edit, review or publish or perish?" Gather a union of universities, or a guild or whatnot, and publish through guild venues.

How long til Elsevier sues scihub? What scihub does isn't possibly legal, is it?

About negative 19 months (Elsevier filed a lawsuit against Sci-Hub on June 3, 2015).

http://www.stephenmclaughlin.net/2016/03/18/elsevier-v-sci-h...

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