Power surge: Chinese electric car battery maker charges for global market
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Is this type of rule common in China? (Granted, we do the same thing in the U.S. by printing red tape.)
Is there any justification to call a company paying royalty for technology "stealing"?
In other words, if Samsung will steal IP from a favorite "Chinese" company, will China says "fair is fair" or will it fine them through the nose.
As for whether they would overlook foreign companies infringing on domestic IP -- would depend very much on the particular companies and countries involved. Fining a foreign company always has a political component that the Chinese authorities are much more sensitive to, than, say, a Western court.
Laws which are not enforced (and will not be enforced) aren't real laws.
That's one of the benefits of running a country like the USA. The USA market is so desirable to participate in that they can black mail countries all over the world to adopt your IP laws despite the fact that (if it wasn't for the lure of USA markets) it is entirely against their best interest to do so.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2013-02-01/piracy-an...
"The first U.S. Patent Act encouraged this policy. Although the law safeguarded domestic inventors, it didn’t extend the same courtesy to foreign ones -- they couldn’t obtain a U.S. patent on an invention they had previously patented in Europe. In practice, this meant one could steal a foreign invention, smuggle it to the U.S., and develop it for domestic commercial applications without fear of legal reprisal."
From personal observation, in mobile tech at least, China are a few years ahead already of the West and Japan in terms of usage and convenience. Why won't they pull ahead in other fields as well?
IMO, China's innovation is in large-scale PCBs and other such manufacturing. See Apple's investment of CNC machines in China as an example. China has several other innovations that does in fact make them a world leader in certain fields.
As far as battery tech goes however, Japan has that on lockdown. Panasonic's Silicon-Lithium batteries are light-years ahead of the competition, even as US battery manufacturers (A123 systems) try to break through. Japan (and Panasonic really: now that Panasonic owns Sanyo / Eneloop) has all of the major high-quality battery manufacturing facilities: Energizer, Duracell, Panasonic (owner of Sanyo / Eneloop).
Korea has the next best bet as far as I can tell. LG Chem's batteries were chosen by GM probably for some reason.
If China were to be making good batteries, then we'd first see some manufacturing companies make some batteries. Most "top-down grown" companies, be in the USA or China, fall flat on their face for the first few decades. It takes a long time to build up expertise.
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There's no reason why China can't grow into a battery powerhouse. Except for the fact that Panasonic is so massive.
Tolerating the violating of foreigner's IP laws, which stand in the way of progress, is one of the things that helped enable their success.
Right now China has progressed to the point were things that are done by the Chinese simply cannot be duplicated anywhere else on the planet. It's not just a matter of scaling their production... They are simply the only game in town. You CANNOT do what they do in China anywhere else.
It's no longer a issue of cheap labor. They have innovated their way past their competitors in USA and Europe.
The part where China falls short is quality control. In the mad rush to produce goods at the cheapest price possible they habitually cut corners and undermine their own foreign markets.
When USA and European companies use China to produce high quality goods they just have to have people on-site to ensure quality and use robust post-production testing. Otherwise things tend to go sideways. Right now places like Japan, Germany, and Korea have a slight end in quality, but for most purposes it's a wash.
The biggest threat to the Chinese economy is their own government policies spiraling the place into a massive depression.
It's worth noting that Panasonic does a lot of it's lithium battery manufacturing in China.
China has lots of labor resources, they have developed supply chains that have been left to rot elsewhere, but those can be ressurected relatively quickly if the need arises. They still have no modern fabs to speak of, and can't build a decent jet turbine or avionics for their own aviations efforts.
how long would it take to recreate a complete electronics manufacturing supply chain outside of China?
perhaps more interesting, how long would it take for one single country to develop the electronics manufacturing supply chain which China currently has?
maybe it's better to focus the question on a single region: how long would it take to resurrect the manufacturing component of SV's economy to the level it was at 25 years ago?
a year or two? five years? a decade? what would the time scale be?
But as long as the need and incentives were there, it would be rebuilt pretty quickly, possibly in radically different and improved ways (more automation, 3D printing, upgraded processes....).
With a focused agenda, the US could rebuild a supply chain in 5 years if it wanted to. I think it is unlikely to want to however.
This was, in turn, caused by the manufacture of the case: they didn't leave enough (or any?) expansion room for the battery, and since when charged they heat up and expand, and there wasn't room to expand, boom.
So, probably, the batteries in question, if packaged properly, would have been fine.
I do not know.
> can the same kind of thing happen to car or home batteries?
Of course. Lithium is a very reactive metal and will create fires in specific circumstances.
As far as I remember the Chinese battery makers started doing cheap copies of known brands but because they were constantly looking for new ways to improve profitability and weren't being regulated by more strict european or american labor laws, soon developed better and better production methods while increasing the quality of their products and soon found themselves selling to some of the larger European car manufactorer.
I will see if I can dig up the story it's been a while and was in some radio program.