Ask HN: Will you hope S3 become a real file system? | Hacker News Reader

Ask HN: Will you hope S3 become a real file system?

5 pointsdaviesliu6 comments

In AWS, S3 is the de facto best storage, we are using it everywhere. After using it more and more, lacking some important feature or sematics really hurted us:

1) eventual consistency, do not known whether it's consistent or not, could result in wrong answer for analytics.

2) lacking of cheap/atomic rename, also symlink, it's painful to manage huge amount of data.

EFS is great, but can only be accessed from same VPC, also too expensive. Setuping up a DFS (GlusterFS/Ceph/MooseFS) in the cloud is also expensive and hard to manage.

ObjectiveFS looks great, after tried out, it still kind of eventual consistent from distributed system's point view(other nodes can't see the updates immediately). A distributed version of S3QL will be great.

Are you also hoping to have a solution that's as easy and scalable as S3, but also provide the same ACID guarantee as file system? If you know a solution like that, please leave a comment, thanks!

I am not willing to pay $ per byte of storage or per minute of CPU time, no matter how buzzwordy the technology is.

Flat fee offerings will be an enabler, not the technological advancement.

ObjectiveFS does provide a flat fee ($15 per client), is that what you what?

If the $ per byte of storage is relatively small comparing to the cost of S3, I actually like that model, pay as you go.

That flat fee sounded enticing, so I had to Google it. Flat fee? https://objectivefs.com/price?l=pricing:

"AWS S3 and Google GCS charges are not included."

It only seems to be flat fee if you store your data on your own server and even then, I would quote 'flat fee', as your costs will go up when you add storage. You also take responsibility for backing up the data.

PS: that's why i use crashplan for backups.

It's on-server-encrypted, version controlled, supports all platforms including Linux and also flat fee-ed.

I hope S3 will stay the same and get cheaper each years. It is meant to be the foundation. That's why you have Dropbox built on top of it.

OpenStack provides an S3 compatible layer, and a few providers have turned that into a service.

I personally use Delimiter's Obj.Space service. I bought a 2tb bundle, with 20tb of monthly bandwidth, for 3 years. It was a one-time fee of $100.

I know OVH has some attractive offers too.

https://www.delimiter.com/objspace-object-storage/ https://www.ovh.com/us/cloud/storage/object-storage.xml

Reply on news.ycombinator.com