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alternativeto is great if you are looking for a software. degooglisons-internet.org is a non-profit that aims at hosting software for people who do not have the skill to host it themselves.

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which completely defies the points they're making against google. all the cloud business runs on trust, and giving all data to newcomers doesn't sound a good plan.

I can reliably find my emails from ten years ago in Google and there is no end in sight. this other service runs on donations and expects me to believe they'll have comparable lifetime?

Not sure about them in particular but usually those initiatives also glorify open standards and the fact that even if the company disapear in 10 years, they will allow you to walk away with all your data in standard formats allowing you to continue your journey with another provider that uses this standard. Which is not obvious with some major companies using their own data models. (although I've heard of some bankrupting companies that made efforts to let users backup their datas before the end).

Every single recommendation on their list can be self-hosted. They are providing you the tools to take control of your online experience exactly so you don't have to rely on a single service provider.

And they'll happily teach you to do so. I know first hand,they started telling people to how to install open-source/free. They currently complain they're starting to be a central point. Believe me they're rms-level free, not google-level free.

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