3 Out of 4 Millennials Have Received Financial Help from Parents After College
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Pretty poor excuse for journalism in my opinion.
EDIT: see my response for toomuchtodo for my actual perspective here, once again I've been schooled in how written communication is so different than face to face conversations. Added to my favorites list as a reminder to contextualize, contextualize, contextualize ...
My father and mother were divorced ~18-19 years ago (one of the most financially devastating events that can occur in your life) due to my mother's alcoholism. It took him years to break even, and at 64, he has less saved for retirement then I do. He continues to work a full time job as long as he can to save for retirement (he believes he'll make it through retirement on his own, while I'm sure I will have to support him at some point; I am fine with this). My mother is disabled, legit disabled, but not from her many years of alcoholism; her lower spinal column has been reconstructed due to a degenerative bone disorder and she has MS. The Social Security Administration deems her as not disabled, as she can still stand for ~3-5 minutes at a time. I support her entirely until she can collect social security at 62 in three years. (EDIT: Before the ACA, she was much worse off; her medications were costing me upwards of $1000/month, causing me an incredible amount of stress between my wife and I [my moral compass does not permit me to deny my mother necessary healthcare], and I was seriously contemplating transporting her pharmaceuticals across the Canadian border to lower the monthly financial outlay). My younger brother refused to help me with any of her financial expenses; we have not spoken in over 2 years.
Don't be so quick to discount parents didn't help because they didn't want to. In most cases, I'm confident the problem is they simply can't. I know I'm not alone in speaking to others about this. People out there are suffering, badly.
EDIT: This is far more than I'd ever really care to share in a public forum, but people need to know what is going on behind the curtain causing people to take the actions that they do. Do you want to know what True Grit is? I will teach you.
EDIT 2: (ffs HN throttling)
Chuck: I hope you didn't take my comment as calling you out. Nothing could be further from the truth! Personally, I'm seeing a lot of people in bad shape financially and personally, and its not being reported on, or when it is reported on, people don't believe it.
So I'm here to give a first hand PIREP of the situation. And it is fucking bad.
And from others I've talked to, unless you are in a wheelchair (and maybe not even then), they will automatically deny you multiple times, until a hearing is scheduled. From what I understand, it acts as a filter for people that can "technically" go back to work (even if they are in extreme pain, if someone doesn't have others to support them, many applicants don't have a choice but to work when they really shouldn't).
My initial take on this article was "This is a crappy piece of journalism which takes some arbitrary facts and tries to use it to criticize millennials." My observation is that generally crappy journalism can be easily exposed and lampooned by inverting the headline's wording which doesn't change its meaning but flips its implication. So "3 out of 4 millennials get helped by parents" flipped is "1 out 4 parents of millennials don't help them." The first might be interpreted that millennials are slackers and the other might be that baby boomers are lousy parents. Both implications are unwarranted and wrong. And that is the hallmark of crappy journalism. There is no interpretation of this headline which conveys useful information.
As a parent, and having been around thousands of parents and read many surveys of parents, there is a common theme. The majority of the time they want to help their kids in any way they can. It is instinctual. Further, any assistance parents give their grown children can be interpreted as "financial" assistance, from babysitting the grand children to giving them the old sofa that has been in the basement for the last 10 years. And that in no way reflects on the character of the children, aka the millennials, in this piece.
That said, I never intended to imply that parents who could not help their children should be criticized. My use of the inversion device would have the headline imply that, and I would disagree with a story based on that just as much as I do the current one.
"Don't help them" != "don't care" so that's not inversion. You added that negative implication. Maybe you didn't mean to. I'll take you at your word on that, but attempts to deflect the reaction back to the OP seem disingenuous.
I wrote it poorly and had I been talking face to face with someone one I hope I would have seen them getting angry and immediately sought out the disagreement between what I thought I was saying and what was being heard. Here its a bit more difficult and it once again reminded me of that.
To your specific criticism, you are correct that I added the connotation. When I read the original title I also added the connotation that "have received financial help" was "are slackers". And I disagreed with that strongly as well. You can receive help from your parents and not be a slacker.
And I recognize that for some portion of the people reading here they read my headline inversion literally rather than as a critique because of the lack of context. If I were to rewrite it, it would have started with
"I disagree strongly with the implication of the headline, you might as well write 1 in 4 parents don't help their millennial children and I would disagree with that too."
And then we could talk about the poorly defined notion of "help" and the question of privilege and whether or not that is an objective thing or a subjective one, and if its objective how do we define it.
But I also wouldn't expect any help after college - I'm an adult now, and need to handle it myself.
Could I have done more, had an easier time starting out on my own, or gone on vacations with financial support from my parents? Probably, but I don't think that's necessary. My parents taught me what I needed to succeed on my own and that's what I see as important.
Of course "post-college" is a key phrase. I wouldn't have been where I was if my parents hadn't paid almost all of my college expenses and bought me a car a couple years in. My mother had similar help during her college years, but my father didn't, and the two of them provided a similar boost to my 2 siblings, as well.
My parents were inner city teachers...they couldn't really afford to help out with undergrad/grad school/later in life. The lack of perspective you're showing is one of the reasons why I don't enjoy hanging out with the tech crowd.
Life isn't that simple, man..
Maybe most of those have sufficient money and don't need any parental financial aid?
Wow. Is that really how you see it? Most parents care, they don't all have the same amount of money.
That said, I knew one parent that would demand student loan money from her kid during college.
Even though my parents were doing very well there wasn't this concept of loading children down with gifts and such they clamored for because it can lead to disappointment later on or worse dependence.
When push came to shove I know more than a few who did a stint in the service to shore up finances, teach responsibility, and save up for college. Perhaps its a regional thing, but we never though of deserving more than the chance to try and succeed but recent generations come across as wanting it all now
I respect the attitude, but realize that times are different now. It's just not possible in a lot of situations to do this.
Since I don't know the generation you grew up in, I'm going to assume the 60s. Which means you would be getting started in the 80s.
In the 80s a "basket of goods" (CPI) was 3x cheaper. And that's assuming they haven't hacked the numbers to make that report seem a bit nicer. Meanwhile, wages have stagnated and college tuition has increased substantially. They are also dealing with obesity epidemic, never-ending war, and the impending doom of climate change.
So those kids are just not in as good a position to succeed.
I can picture it now. A cry echos from many basements in America: "MOM I CAN'T GET A JOB, CLIMATE CHANGE!"
I'm 27 and a high school drop out. I've supported myself since I was 18 and own my home. war, climate change, and obesity (I'm not a thin man) never prevented me from getting a job.
Nice, that's not easy. And if it was 50% harder to do, you might have been able to do it anyway. But there is some threshold where you would not have been able to. It might be 200%, 500%, 1000%, but there's a line somewhere.
> war, climate change, and obesity
This was more to point out how different the world is now, not provide excuses for laziness.
If parents can help - great, but I would not see this as anything but a real, amazing privilege to have. Honor it, and love you parents back.
1) Parents are deceased (mine have been dead for decades, for example, so they couldn't)
2) Estranged from parents (people I know have had little no/contact due to irreconcilable differences)
3) Parents are too poor to help
4) Adult child makes enough money to not need help
Also. Bankruptcy does not wipe out school debt!
I stepped onto the RIT campus as a freshmen in 1998, and total costs per year were north of $35,000. Expecting a clueless kid to understand what that means is insane.
"The type of financial support varies substantially. Nearly 30 percent of those receiving help accept health insurance and approximately the same percentage welcome assistance with purchasing a home or renting. Auto insurance was another big contributor, with 26 percent of young people receiving help to pay for it, and 23 percent getting help with utilities."
Come on people, don't start typing out a response if you haven't even looked at the link. Especially considering it's like 10 sentences total and anyone could skim it in a minute flat.
I paid it back pretty quickly, because tech job, but I couldn't have floated it.
This is the key :)
The actual break down of the top assistance assistance categories are Health Insurance, Buying/Renting, Auto Instance, and Utilities, so bills. The insurances are probably from being on their parents' plans. This is pretty consistent with what I hear from people I know. Their parents aren't paying for everything, but they do take care of 1 or 2 of their bills for their children.
[1] https://www.ubs.com/content/dam/ubs/microsites/ubs-investor-...
In my country it is quite common that parents first pay for a wedding and then help as much as they can with buying/building a house for newly married couple. It is considered parent's duty to help their children kick-start their own family.
And because that usually means that parents won't save enough money for their own retirement then the children are supposed to take care of them when they do retire. Most of the time that helps maintain strong family bonds, but sometimes it does exactly the opposite.
When you're poor, and your family's poor, a lot of options are closed off to you. I know some people who were given old cars by parents; I always had to buy my own. That's just a couple thousand dollars for a used car, but that stuff adds up when it's not just a car, not just a loan for a house, but everything taken together.
That said I agree with the overall point that the term is so vague/broad it's basically meaningless if not clearly defined. Does living at home after college count?
My father did offer to help with the house but he wanted to charge an interest rate that would have made it cheaper for me to take private mortgage insurance so that is what I did. After all, I benefitted from the record low interest rates.
But my brother, who is not a millennial did get help with his house and his small business from my father when he was my age. And I think I am the only one of my friend's who has a house that didn't get some assistance from their parents (or my wife's parents).
But I'm an exception not a rule. I don't think any less of the 3/4.
[1] By successful enough I mean I make a reasonable (but not great) salary and work hard. So does my wife who is at least as successful as me in her engineering career. Unfortunately I have yet to have an app or company of mine sell for millions yet :)
I'm careful using the word "Millennial" these days and increasingly skeptical of online articles with the word "Millennial" in the title. Thanks to shows like Adam Ruins Everything[1], I am more informed on a variety of topics. (I learn visually and prefer to watch his videos instead of read an article).
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2R0b_mqrQ&list=PLuKg-Whduh...
In fact, I expected it much higher - it essentially includes the parents' legacy. Considering this, it's dramatically low, right? :D
I too am impressed that as much as 25% don't get anything at all (I guess the definition of financial aid could change this, does buying you a few meals count or is it specifically dollar transactions?)
The value of having a multi-million-dollar safety net, (Or even someone to pay for a bus ride home, and a room to live in), however, cannot be understated.
Some could argue that counts as "spending money", but I don't think it would count unless it was a recurring thing.
The definition, then, of "financial assistance" is very broad and covers more than just literal cash.
But then, my wife's parents are definitely not well-off (unlikely to ever retire) and they still sent us small "just because" gifts occasionally when we were young and poor.
And I literally don't know anyone with a kid and a non-terrible (not even necessarily good) relationship with their parents who hasn't received a lot of free child care. Parents -- even those who have to work hard to make ends meet -- find time for the grandchildren.
So if the definition was "any amount of cash/any service for a reason other than birthday/holiday", then I kind of have to agree with your parent.
So I definitely agree that having parents who can work and take occasionally vacation and have any amount of disposable income is definitely a huge blessing. But I don't think it's particularly rare in the US, either.
At the same time I'm tired of being lumped into the "privileged white male" group when being white is literally the ONLY advantage I've ever had. I've never gotten a single penny handed to me from anyone, related or not, since turning 17.
yes, that is like the definition of privilege
To give an extreme example, the majority of people in the US don't have to deal with what those who live on reservations have to deal with. That means that the majority of people in the US are privileged in a way that those on a res aren't.
I've always thought of the discussion about privilege to be a very American way of talking about human rights. We can't possibly talk about having enough food, housing, safe interactions with the law, etc. as rights, and thus those who don't have that are being denied their basic rights, so instead we talk about those things as privileges that are denied to a segment of population.
I would much prefer talk about these things as rights, personally.
The term isn't normally used in this relative sense, though. The oxford dictionary says that privilege is 'a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group'. Something the majority enjoys is not a privilege.
Further, no part the definition you quoted restricts a privilege from being enjoyed by the majority.
For housing/food, sure - in the USian context it doesn't make sense to talk about such things as "rights" because they'd have to be provided by somebody else [0]. The existence of life's basic necessities is actually not guaranteed and it is worthwhile to remember that. (However this framework says nothing about the idea of distributing surpluses to people who couldn't otherwise afford it, just that it does not constitute a "right").
But inverting the sense and labeling their presence "privilege" is a completely regressive zero-sum framework, ultimately promulgated by political shills that are more concerned with bolstering their followers rather than actually fixing problems.
This is especially clear when talking about things that are rights, like say simply not being murdered (eg by the police). By labeling as "privileged" the people who are just not having their rights violated, the tone is set that they are the exception. The "privileged" group then checks out of the conversation (as they're being told that the problem does not directly concern them), while the ire of the "unprivileged" group is harmlessly directed at the "privileged" group instead of their actual oppressors.
[0] It's the distinction between saying whether a "right" to Internet access implies a free basic monthly service, or merely disallowing the possibility that one could be banned from the Internet via governmental action like an explicit law or "private" "three strikes" system.
But I can't argue against the reality that having two parents who stay married, are not abusive to each other or their children, and are generally functional human beings is something of a luxury.
"Functional human being(s)" is the key there. Lots of people who were raised by a single parent, divorced parents or occasionally abusive households turned out fine.
I disagree with the idea that any financial support means your children are privileged but do agree that there is a level of support at which they are so. In my personal definition I draw the line at things like subsidizing their rent or paying their gas or insurance bills. I would consider someone whose parents supported them to that level as living a privileged life.
But as I said, I expect that line is in different places for everyone.
thanks, student loans!