MIT Values
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>For any member of our community who may feel fear or oppression, our doors are open and we are ready to help. We pledge to work with all members of the community – students, faculty, staff, postdoctoral researchers, and administrators – to defend these principles today and in the times ahead.
Now, these things sound nice on paper, but they run completely contrary to my experience in dealing with universities in my community. If you aren't pay tuition, they won't tell you the time of day.
That's completely fair, but let's call a spade a spade.
Sure, administration doesn't care, but members of the faculty are regularly willing to help out non-students. (I got a temporary account by asking a staff member nicely, to help me work a project that furthered the goals of computing at MIT)
So, thank you, MIT faculty, for clearly stating that people from all backgrounds are still welcome here[2].
[1]: http://sipb.mit.edu/ [2]: http://yawh.mit.edu/
Are you talking about faculty or administration people?
I always try to reply to everyone who contacts me even if they aren't a student. I even respond to the people that email me theories that rely on P=NP.
Nothing in the MIT message qualifies.
This statement seems a bit below MIT. They should take the high ground, above petty Presidential-cycle politics. Science and all that.
It's been difficult to take anyone seriously that has a problem with people they label as "Social Justice Warriors". Also, this isn't the sort of rhetoric I enjoy seeing on HN.
It's important to note that they also specifically called out the President-Elect for his Climate-Denying statements.
Him being racist – and a denier – make this incredibly important.
Why is this important? They are in a position of scientific authority, and they are opposing a position of government authority. He is incorrect, he is ascending to power, and this sets their authority against his authority.
This is about who you trust for your information and who will help shape your opinion. An esteemed educational institution, or a racist demagogue? Sounds to me like you've already made your choice.
this isn't the sort of rhetoric I enjoy seeing on HN
Conversely, I don't enjoy seeing social justice rhetoric on HN. I come here for the tech, startup, and programming news and commentary. So I suppose we're even. The fact that you mistakenly read my view as pro-Trump only highlights the dangers of this kind of content on HN.
> Science and all that
Really sounds like you chose MIT. You know there's a part in there where they acknowledge climate change? That's pretty important.
> Social Justice Rhetoric on HN.
Again, really hard to take you seriously.
Help be part of the solution. Flag politically charged articles. Strip political speech from your comments. Call out in a non-partisan way comments that are injecting politics needlessly into the conversation. Submit and up vote tech articles you find interesting.
If we start to see stifling of legitimate, civil speech, then I think we have cause for concern. I'm encouraged that the statement specifically includes
We uphold the principles of the scientific method, of fact- and reason-based objective inquiry. Science is not a special interest; it is not optional. Science is a foundational ingredient in how we as a society analyze, understand, and solve the most difficult challenges that we face.
Looking (albeit briefly) online, I found one indication that free speech might be under threat at MIT:
http://projects.wgbhnews.org/muzzle-awards-2015/mit/
This describes a broadening of the MIT anti-hazing policy as including "mental discomfort", which, according to the author's commentary is part of "the gradual yet radical transformation of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from one of the most robust academic centers of free speech and free thought in the world, to just another politically correct wannabe gulag."
That said, the text doesn't include any actual incidence of complaints of these restrictions being applied. If there were, I'd think they'd be included. Of course, that doesn't mean there haven't been such occurrences. Such data would add weight to such allegations.
Many have labeled trump as a near fascist and one of the hallmarks of such a regime is suppression of free speech and thought. In banning unpopular speech MIT has become closer to the very thing it's trying to distance itself from
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Wrong.