Sous-vide startup wants to take the tech-industry’s kitchen darling mainstream
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Major kitchen equipment manufacturers are all going to have low-temp cooking appliances within the next few years.
This article, meanwhile, is pretty annoying. For instance: the "until recently" shot of older lab-style circulators is entirely bogus: for more than 5 years, even the PolyScience units --- even the restaurant-grade pro ones --- have been approximately as slick as the Sansaires and Anovas. Nomiku was an early entrant to the market, but they've pretty much been lapped.
The "next" thing to watch for is probably home-compatible combi ovens (combi ovens cook in temperature controlled steam baths instead of water baths). There are already some products here, but I don't know how good they are yet.
And as I noted in another comment, the "until recently" bit is partly because this article is from 2014.
That said, I could see a nice use for a connected device like this used in an insulated container - prep food in the morning, then leave it in an ice water bath. At an appropriate time turn the heater on remotely. As long as there's water present to be heated and circulated it should be fine for quite a while.
Edit: After all these replies, my evidence seems to be in fact anecdotal.
But convenience is not the benefit; with sous vide I can prepare expensive steaks without risk of ruining them (in fact without risk of falling short of perfection). Were I Daniel Boulud, I would not have much need for it, but as a mere mortal, I imagine I will continue to love sous vide.
We all use ours several times a week. It turns out so good and so consistent, I basically use it for all beef, chicken, pork, and lamb.
The nice thing about the Sansaire is that it supports temperature setpoints lower than most other (all other?) units. I use it for long proofs of no knead bread at 21C for around 18h. The dough sits in a one gallon bucket covered with plastic that I set into the water bath in a cool room in my basement. Perfectly proofed dough. Every. Single. Time.
Does the best eggs I've ever had and pretty great lobster too.
Sous Vide bacon is stunning as well: so creamy.
Sorry “someday” is not today.
I bought my Bluetooth(rarely use that part, just set and walk away) cooker for $125 over a year ago. Why would this competitor make it go mainstream.
I am all for more consumer options, but how is this different/better?
"we thought we'd resurface our look at one of the early smart sous-vide machines from August 2014."
Larger companies are working on Anova-like devices and some of them are already popping up. Just saw [1] last week in a grocery store here, in Switzerland. It's as mainstream as it gets.
[1] https://www.bettybossi.ch/de/Angebote/Detail/12168232977?tit...
I also wonder if a low power microwave oven would be an alternative to a hot water bath. I don't know how the two methods would compare for efficiency.
Coles supermarkets in Australia have been selling pre-cooked, pre-sauced sous vide meats for a couple of years now, though they don't say "sous vide" on the packaging but rather "slow cooked for N hours". But the actual product is clearly cooked sous vide – the interior packaging is a vacuum sealed bag and the results are exactly what you'd expect.
> Isn't that how the restaurants do it?
In my experience it's more common in the restaurant world but still not pervasive.
> I also wonder if a low power microwave oven would be an alternative to a hot water bath.
Poorly. An immersion circulator is probably the simplest and ultimately cheapest form of the idea; engineering-wise they're not much more complicated than an electric kettle. It just needs economies of scale to really kick in.
A microwave would also be highly impractical for all but the shortest cooks. Sous vide often takes multiple hours or even multiple days – I do 10 hour pork belly and 72 hour lamb shanks. For the latter I usually set it up in the laundry and switch from a stockpot to an esky (cooler box). Very easy to do with an immersion circulator.
As a result, there's very little room for differentiation in this space and a rapid descent into commoditization with very little room for profits. The big players in the market are betting their hope on apps which seems misguided. Expect to see Chinese competitors come in and ruthlessly undercut on price and leave the current players in the dust. Those no-name Chinese brands are going to be the real people who will take SV mainstream.
They are fundamentally different cooking techniques. Immersion cooking, "sous vide", is cooking food in a sealed bag in a water bath.
"instant pot" are more like smart cockpot/pressure cookers where the food is contained a pressurized (sometimes) vessel in air.
Which is better depends on the type of food and cooking technique you wish to utilize.
I get what I can do with a pressure cooker that I can't do with a circulator.
I do not get what I can do with an unpressurized "smart crock pot" that I can't do with a circulator.
Also, the pressure vessel means you can go to water temps above 100C. Not sure if that's a useful/interesting range for most ingredients, but some creative souls might find a use for it.
b) Dave Arnold on his Cooking Issues podcast got the SC Johnson folks to confirm that their ZipLoc bags are safe for this application. In fact, I checked one box of mine and it says "BPA free".
c) FoodSaver bags are safe as well, but I don't have a reference handy.
Carrots in SV are ungodly. Impossible to eat them cooked any other way IMO.