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You have every right to take this position, and if you feel strongly have no obligation to stay. What I cannot understand is the next step of proposing to close the entire subreddit. Don't want to moderate it anymore? Then don't. A subreddit is made up of it's users, not just the moderators.

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The background is that we have some official spaces and some unofficial spaces.

I thought our subreddit was an official space that we created. It turns out we didn't create it, so it's not ours to delete.

I'm now proposing we just make it unofficial.

>>It turns out we didn't create it

No shit.

https://imgur.com/a/K2cWx

Yes, that's what I learned too. That was before my time.

Did you learn it by scrolling down on the front page and looking at the text below the list of moderators? I sincerely hope you aren't trusted to run a public community ever again if your first reaction is to start an off-site proposal to shut a community down.

Dude, calm down. That's why he didn't just do it without getting input from others.

You can't reasonably expect someone to never have gaps in their knowledge.

> That's why he didn't just do it

Even if he tried he couldn't have done it. :v

Uriel did. Unfortunately we can't ask him about his opinion anymore.

Even if you did create it initially I don't think that deletion would be a good course of action here.

So the only thing holding you back from deleting a subreddit with tons of information, 25.000 subscribed users and what looks like a rather active and healthy discussion isn't that it would be a dick move to both golang in general and the community, but that you're not actually the owner.

Could you get any more childish?

Not attaching your brand to poor service is also part of managing a community.

If AWS started MITMing client HTTP connections and injecting code, would you be surprised people moved their official websites off the platform, even if a lot of people knew the old IP address?

That's not childish, that's not doing business with bad partners, and Im not convinced a space that started as official could ever truly be made "non-official".

What I mean is that the subreddit doesn't belong to bradfitz, or Google, or the golang creators. It has never started as official because the creator was /u/uriel. The Google guys may have joined after, but the fact is that it is not their community. They're not even paying a single dime for it.

If AWS started MITMing my connections, absolutely, I would drop it. But the analogy doesn't hold because /r/golang isn't bradfitz's subreddit.

The proper and only response would be to drop moderatorship, leaving in a thread his reasons, and leaving /r/golang as it is. As it stands, the only thing stopping him from doing that is that the he's not the original owner.

And, you could also argue that when a community reaches a certain size, it doesn't belong to you anymore. It belongs to that community. To delete it is petty and childish.

The reddit CEO played a prank.

Google actively helps China censor dissent.

They do? How? Google was still blocked in China last time I was there afaik.

It was just an overreaction (and a pretty understandable one) because he is so pissed off at Reddit.

...funny, that's basically the same thing Spez said about what he did.

Well, except Spez actually did it. Brad asked for feedback/proposed doing it.

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