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Repeal the New Surveillance Laws (Investigatory Powers Act)

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You really need to keep an eye on these people.

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2007-08/1731

A motion from 2007-2008 that ".. expresses concern at reports concerning the expansion of the powers introduced in the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, and the recent extension to the list of organisations permitted to use these powers from nine to 792".

This motion was brought by the Member for St. Albans Anne Main. The 2016 law basically extends WHAT is recorded without this previous concern of WHO should use the collected information being addressed (i.e. police vs. every man and his dog).

This would have been a tick in the Member for St. Alban's workbook if it weren't for the fact that she has since voted consistently voting FOR mass surveillance:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11798/anne_main/st_albans/...

I don't really believe this will make a difference, but sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right anyway. I've signed it.

To be fair, it would have been much better if the public had opposed this bill before it was voted through, but at the time Brexit, and then Trump were still dominating the news.

I blame the press really- they spent so much time talking about Trump (in the UK) that who knows what else was done without us being aware of it.

I sincerely believe that the majority of the British people, irrespective of political affiliation, would strongly oppose this bill if they realised what it actually does. The problem is getting the word out, which I think this petition (and similar moves) will help do.

Btw- I have nothing to do with the people who started the peitition, I only signed it :)

It just needs to be rephrased in terms of dick-pics and sexting.

Much as I'd like to think that signing this would make a difference, it won't :(

Theresa May has been pushing for this legislation (or variants thereof) for years now. The existing powers which this bill replaces expire at the end of the year, and so the line "We cannot allow {terrorists|child pornographers|money launderers} a safe space to hide online" will be trotted out, and anyone arguing against it will be labelled soft on terror, and unpatriotic...

It seems that this is why voter turnout has been so low in recent years. Yes you can make a difference but it requires more than signing a petition.

Eh, don't be too quick to write off the idea of activism here.

Expressing your opposition to this bill is important even if you don't believe there's a real chance of it being overturned.

In 6 months, snoopers will probably ask politicians for more power, and politicians will look back on what happened today. We want them to remember that it was difficult and had a high cost in political capital. Not that they snuck it in and everyone rolled over instantly.

Okay, then. Sign the petition and do something else.

Remember - they'll know who's signing the petition ;)

Most of us are IT professionals. We are most probably already on intelligence agencies radar, and no, I'm not being paranoid.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extre...

13 years ago a friend joined the ranks of "first responders". While they were studying and working up the org ladder he/she shared insights into the mechanisations of terror mitigation & response policies. The most noteworthy of them, for me, was the fact that if a 1st responder were to enter a domicile on any type of call & observed two or more computers(per resident) on premises they were mandated to report that residence to DHS for scrutiny.

Does it make sense to sign this if we are not from the UK?

No, because, as per the help page https://petition.parliament.uk/help, only British citizens/UK residents are eligible to vote. No point undermining a legitimate process with illegitimate entries.

So... are the ISPs instructed to record only domestic connections? Or am I being surveilled too if I happen to connect to an ip address located in the UK? Or similarly, if a UK resident happens to connect to me?

Technically this law covers logging at the ISP level for UK DSL and cable customers.

However in reality, the UK is tapping all undersea cables coming into the UK (so basically almost all transatlantic ones), and logging everything. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secre.... This is done under the Tempora program: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora.

So any connections into the UK are also being logged. This map gives you idea of the scale of connections coing through the UK: http://submarine-cable-map-2016.telegeography.com/ and this map shows the taps that have been discovered as part of the NSA Snowden leaks: http://lifewinning.com/submarine-cable-taps/ (Source code: https://github.com/lifewinning/submarine-cable-taps)

It's irrelevant really in terms of the petition, as the site is a mechanism for British citizens to bring their concerns to the attention of parliament. I assume you would have to go down a different avenue to lodge your objections.

Note that I agree with your sentiment, just that that is what the site is for!

Please don't if people from outside the UK sign then it allows the press to bring the legitimacy of the whole petition into question.

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