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Computer Security Experts Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results

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This story is currently being suppressed from the front page and I'm not sure it should be. I suspect the reason is that none of the researchers who raised this issue have gone on record for the article.

Readers should be advised about that and take it into consideration when assessing the validity of the story. That being said, notable security researchers seem to find it interesting considering the merits of the team:

- "I don't know what to think about this since nothing is on record. But Alex Halderman is a serious researcher." https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/80121173976959795...

- "Wowze. I've not looked into this myself. But if Halderman says there should be an audit, there should be an audit." https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/801207035324866560

- "Concur. Prof. Halderman is a legit expert on voting security." https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/801212140912865280

Also:

- PEOPLE! An audit is called for is not "the election was stolen." Team raising questions is credible; they should be listened to. That's all. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/801217522741690368

- I also get why people wouldn't want to look into this. Still: the integrity of voting machines seems like something you want to be sure of. https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/80121885848495718...

How do you know it's suppressed, and why should it be?

The story currently has 14 points after 43 minutes, which is a much higher vote velocity than many other stories on the front page.

It also doesn't appear anywhere on the first 9 pages.

That is disappointing.

@sctb or @dang, could you fix it or comment on why it happened? It's not fake news or a conspiracy theory, but backed by serious expertise.

I agree, this post needs to be unflagged.

This is pretty weird. I'd heard about the 7 points claim (and debunkings based on the fact that the effect disappears after controlling for education/race/density) around a week ago.

But Alex Halderman genuinely is one of the world's leading experts on voting security. He's also a brilliant, careful researcher. I have to wonder if there is additional evidence that isn't mentioned in the article?

So what happened to all the talk before the election about accepting the results as Democracy?

...What happened is that the people that said this expected to win the election..but didn't.

It really shows me that most people are phonies and they only believe in their own self-interests. The founding fathers were brilliant when they designed the electoral college. It stopped a criminal from becoming president.

You would think that the Democrats would learn from their mistakes. Rather than being bigoted, painting all opposing viewpoints with the same brush (while expecting more acceptance in return), and censoring free speech, you need to figure out why people voted for Trump.

Otherwise, we will have a 2-term president with no Democrats in sight for many years.

edit: The downvotes proves my point. Thanks! :-)

Actually I think your type of comment is exactly why this type of story is being flagged/buried. I wish HN commentators would be able to assess and discuss these types of stories without involving politics.

This is not a political issue, and it would be nice if it was possible to discuss potential issues related to democratic processes, particularly when it intersects with areas where the HN community may be able to provide valuable insights. Perhaps that's just not possible.

If downvotes prove you are correct then upvotes would prove you are wrong. A comment with this quality is a very singular thing.

This account has been posting primarily political and ideological comments. This site is for civil discussion about topics that gratify our intellectual curiosity. We're here to learn, not to engage in ideological battle and political warfare, so we ban accounts that abuse the site like this.

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