The .blog Bait and Switch
chrisschidle.com
chrisschidle.com
You can register your new gTLD for anywhere between $1 and $100, depending on what I suppose they expect their target demographic to be willing to pay. Dot horse is more expensive than dot webcam, for instance, and I imagine dot lawyer is more expensive than dot lol.
However, if your domain name uses a word or phrase that happens to be in their "premium domain" dictionary, then they'll charge an elevated price based on heuristics similar to what yesteryear's domain squatters used. Some simple and concise domains can run hundreds of thousands of dollars.
cheap.horse is $25/yr
tiny.horse is $100/yr
internet.horse is $1000/yr
free.horse is "ask us"
Controlling the TLD is the ultimate form of domain squatting.I wonder what will happen when some of these companies go under because they can no longer afford to pay off their debts? Will those that registered domain names lose them outright? Can someone else buy the gTLD and take them all over?
Then I can setup a sole mailbox "look", and have it auto respond to any messages with "my horse is amazing".
I wonder how may will get the joke.
Eventually I settled for sheep.horse, which is easy to remember but not much else.
not.horse is available, too, if someone wants to tell that joke via a TLD.
And of course, bad.horse is exactly what you expect it to be.
Even more geek than setting up joke SSIDs for your neighbours to enjoy.
18 bad.horse (162.252.205.131) 281.595 ms 346.926 ms 277.790 ms
19 bad.horse (162.252.205.132) 321.686 ms 486.714 ms 288.551 ms
20 bad.horse (162.252.205.133) 280.425 ms 281.488 ms 314.627 ms
21 he.rides.across.the.nation (162.252.205.134) 296.891 ms 297.092 ms 297.880 ms
22 the.thoroughbred.of.sin (162.252.205.135) 380.358 ms 305.077 ms 312.953 ms
23 he.got.the.application (162.252.205.136) 308.228 ms 373.024 ms 334.579 ms
24 that.you.just.sent.in (162.252.205.137) 305.447 ms 452.741 ms 306.166 ms
25 it.needs.evaluation (162.252.205.138) 342.778 ms 317.674 ms 313.240 ms
26 so.let.the.games.begin (162.252.205.139) 387.610 ms 310.964 ms 482.971 ms
27 a.heinous.crime (162.252.205.140) 320.908 ms 455.232 ms 351.113 ms
28 a.show.of.force (162.252.205.141) 327.957 ms 328.891 ms 494.652 ms
29 a.murder.would.be.nice.of.course (162.252.205.142) 406.810 ms 379.742 ms 406.548 ms
30 bad.horse (162.252.205.143) 341.390 ms 341.207 ms 531.487 ms
31 bad.horse (162.252.205.144) 415.444 ms 412.884 ms 345.962 ms
32 bad.horse (162.252.205.145) 344.182 ms 345.273 ms 343.255 ms
33 he-s.bad (162.252.205.146) 539.652 ms 352.428 ms 354.169 ms
34 the.evil.league.of.evil (162.252.205.147) 354.151 ms 368.464 ms 409.535 ms
35 is.watching.so.beware (162.252.205.148) 412.046 ms 397.060 ms 377.321 ms
36 the.grade.that.you.receive (162.252.205.149) 369.120 ms 472.142 ms 369.329 ms
37 will.be.your.last.we.swear (162.252.205.150) 450.581 ms 584.539 ms 369.829 ms
38 so.make.the.bad.horse.gleeful (162.252.205.151) 443.618 ms 380.086 ms 430.089 ms
39 or.he-ll.make.you.his.mare (162.252.205.152) 409.878 ms 409.638 ms 376.659 ms
40 o_o (162.252.205.153) 394.767 ms 392.315 ms 394.865 ms
41 you-re.saddled.up (162.252.205.154) 470.925 ms 574.203 ms 390.227 ms
42 there-s.no.recourse (162.252.205.155) 399.117 ms 398.627 ms 418.105 ms
43 it-s.hi-ho.silver (162.252.205.156) 614.293 ms 407.711 ms 410.689 ms
44 signed.bad.horse (162.252.205.157) 419.605 ms 410.318 ms 538.911 ms
Never did. If there are any photogs here who want it, let me know.
[first initial][last initial]@[first initial][surname].net
also this email address:
fuckyourhondacivicive@horseoutsi.de
If anyone wants to use it, let me know
Looking at ntldstats.com, it would appear that they can't manage to break +250 new registrations per day for about 40 domain extensions that they own and operate. Even worse, it looks like they have been going negative on new registrations now: https://ntldstats.com/registry/Rightside-Registry
The user interface has also gone to shit on their site Name.com. I'm a developer and can't for the life of me understand their backend anymore. Google Domains crushes them design-wise.
They stole a domain from me too. :(
also, there's no .cow gTLD so I can't do spherical.cow. Spherical.horse is squatted already.
Many of these new TLDs will disappear. There is no demand.
But I understand your point and the whole system is rotten. First come first served is no longer viable.
Public auctions for each new and released domain might have merit, but will still attract domainers and preclude many fresh companies.
What are the plebs gonna do? Go the the non existent alternative?
Browsers/OS would be reasonably easy in most circumstances, but there are embedded devices, load-balancing configurations, other esoteric uses for DNS (text records, mail etc) that'd have to be considered as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root
There are others. But no, they don't become the new standard.
You pay an upfront fee to ICANN and probably some kind of recurring tax and you get to create a TLD. You then sell this TLD for higher prices than ICANN and run a very simple service that processes the transactions.
You then take anything lower than a 5 or 6 letter domain that is a word in the english language and define it as a "premium" domain and charge obscene prices for those domains. The fee you charge for the domain based on this system is recurring. So instead of buying milk.com for $10k and selling it for $12k you already own milk.blog by default and if someone wants to register it you charge $500 a year.
NOT TO MENTION this whole system is like a slap in the face to a certain kind of "domainers." People who buy domains based on their perceived value, park them, and then try and resell them for more money. There are many millions of dollars wrapped up in this other, also stupid racket. These companies got so bold as to get their domains "valued" and then bet on the value of their company based on their holdings like some type of stock filled with mortgages. This new system is like cutting directly into that strategy but I guess ICANN gets some of the money this way.
It's a shame they don't determine that the domain was squatted before your trademark existed. But it seems in their interest to give the benefit of the doubt to the one buying many, many domains yearly.
If Tucows is willing to sell they certainly aren't publicizing it.
After the gTLD explosion I thought I could finally snare a decent one but they all went into the $1000+ category immediately, excepting niches like cook.republican, cook.accountant etc.
Luckily some did eventually come down, I managed to get cook.run for a more reasonable $50/year
firstname.party is great to have.
Sounds great to me.
I don't see it as necessary, to be honest, and given the frequency with which people lose access to their wallets/have them stolen, I'm not entirely sure the bulk of domain owners would want bearer instruments to be the sole way to manage (or lose) their domain.
Namecoin is probably the largest, and provides .bit. IPFS has IPNS, but that is just subdirectories of a user hash, there is no pretty naming there.
There is also tech like what is behind .onion, where you can generate names until you get one you like, where you can devote more resources to getting prettier names at the cost of electricity and hardware to do so.
"Unlike DNS, GNS does not rely on central root zones or authorities. Instead any user administers his own root and can can create arbitrary name value mappings. Furthermore users can delegate resolution to other users' zones just like DNS NS records do. Zones are uniquely identified via public keys and resource records are signed using the corresponding public key. Delegation to another user's zone is done using special PKEY records and petnames. A petname is a name that can be freely chosen by the user. This results in non-unique name-value mappings as www.bob.gnu to one user might be www.friend.gnu for someone else."
The latter is the really corrupt, broken thing here, and we should be able to swap that out.
There certainly is the issue that most of these TLDs aren't very interesting to most people, though. With low demand, I certainly understand why they want to be able to milk the few names that people find attractive.
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Hello,
You are getting this email because you have performed a pre-order with your handle {redacted} for the domain name {redacted}.
Unfortunately, this order is currently in error, because the domain name in question has been defined as Premium by the registry. This decision is of course beyond our control and frequently corresponds to a list of common and/or connotative words that allow registered to apply special rates to them.
This means that in your case, we have placed the order in error, because the price that you initially paid is no longer the price that the registry is charging for it.
If you would like to know the price, in order to eventually purchase it, then reply to this email, so that our support team can obtain that for you from the registry.
As long as you are considering this, do not cancel your order, since this will cause you to lose your place in the waiting list.
If, however, you no longer wish to register the domain, you can cancel it from the link provided below, and your prepaid account will be refunded for the order:
Why is a very specific spelling (note the lack of "e") of a not terribly common name so expensive? No clue, but I'm guessing the same forces are at work (i.e., $$$).
So if you serve 15,000 people with .party domains at $29/yr each, you only need 175 people to pay $2,495 and you've already made more money.
I don't mind paying more for a domain, I might even pay a measurable amount of money every month for the right one, but trying to insist that jacki.party is worth $210/mo is bananas.
Was aware they could do this but totally BS!
Adding TLDs doesn't open up the domain space; it closes it. The domain name system was designed to expand downwards, by adding more hierarchies. Downwards is where the space is. Expanding upwards is limited.
The racket ran out of space selling keywords inside .com, where this was originally meant to be confined. Once they finish selling keywords at the root, that'll be it.
The current "problem" stems from the fact that .coms are full. Once the TLD space is full, the same problem will remain. Everyone who wants one cannot have a memorable name in a flat namespace. There are too many people and there is too little room.
Indeed. Seems like it would be easy for them to use the auction to automatically see "300 people tried to claim this domain, it must be a good one, let's make it premium."
They wouldn't need to spend a penny doing market research to select the premium names themselves.
Maybe one way you could do it is create a tiny subsidiary to manage the reservations/registration. The subsidiary can be created under the pretenses of shielding the parent company from legal liability so you can both limit the team size, the scope of their purpose and isolate them from the parent company.
Build the backend to provide information on reservations but accessible only to subsidiary financial management/officers and parent company employees whose wealth is tied to the success of shares in the company. Officially only share the total number of reservations and financials with the parent company via something documented like email. Then the backend reporting is decoupled from the reservations that come in for early access. If you setup a distinct founder program and establish enough time between the reservation announcement and when you give normal employees early access you don't even have to worry about your employees snatching up the most profitable ones.
The first the CS reps hear about it is when a reply/complaint comes in from one of the cancellations. When asked their supervisor only knows that the name came over as one of the early access reservations from the parent company. The CS reps don't have enough information to draw conclusions because they don't get access to numbers and an early access employee program provides plausible deniability if the reps start asking questions.
That was kind of a fun mental exercise. I've seen some real cloak and dagger stuff from people but those were always at small companies. I have no idea how plausible any of that would be, especially in companies this big. But it would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a fairly unique but uninteresting domain that wasn't obviously gibberish and a a lot of us put in a reservation for it at random intervals to create a perception of interest and popularity.
I suspect that a lot of them are just hoping that enough large companies buy up kfc.blog, walmart.porn, etc to make a return on investment. Fleecing people who actually want the domains is just icing on the cake.
I am somewhat of a hypocrite, I run my blog off https://sheep.horse/, but only because I thought that the .horse TLD was silly enough to be worth supporting.
So on a 5 year term, it might even be a small profitable business.
When I started reading this post, I clicked the get.blog link first and wondered if chris.blog might be available. I assumed not and didn't check before going back to the article and seeing the topic domain, hah.
Not sure how silly it is but there are some silly amounts of money involved in horse racing.
(Recently managed to register "steve.fi", as it expired just a few months after I relocated to Finland. That was a happy coincidence. I guess that means I have two vanity-domains!)
I worked briefly at a registry - it is money for jam.
I don't know if the DNS protocol and all the related ones are fundamentally broken or need fixing, but it seems to me the problem is ICANN and the web that spreads out from under it.
Why can't we just create an alternate ... distributed naming system, except without the rent-seeking/government ownership attached? I mean, this focus on how important the last bit is is ridiculous, the namespace doesn't have to be artificially restricted, beyond what the protocol might require.
I guess I have a simplistic view and probably lack a bit of history, and there must be something preventing it. Do the top-level servers collude, and help to create something like ICANN, or was it taken out of people's hands etc?
Because people like money. This TLD business literally invented a new economic activity, and one with great margins. It doesn't really hurt anyone, has little to no cost, and makes a pretty penny. People With Money love stuff like this; if tomorrow they could invent a marketable TLD system for physical addresses, phone numbers or anything else, they'd jump at the chance.
This is just how the capitalist world works: stuff exists to make money, everything else is a bonus.
When it finally came out, I eagerly went to my favourite registrar to try and buy it, and found that it's listed at over £1000. It's not a particularly common name either. Out of interest, I tried a few other surnames off the top of my head, and it seems that pretty much any domain that could be somebody's surname has been bumped up massively.
Of course, they have every right to do that, but the people buying these domains are individuals - very few of these domains are ever going to have a business use. To me, it looks like they've done nothing more than price themselves out of the whole point of their TLD.
Instead, I'm going to wait out the expiry of the .com, which isn't being squatted as such, but it is owned by a company for a single software product of theirs which looks like it was written in the 90s and requires you to send a cheque if you want to buy it. The last update was helpfully reminding visitors that the app wouldn't be compatible with the upcoming OS X Lion. One day, they'll stop renewing that domain...my time will come.
There are some proposed safeguards built into the rules to prevent this meltdown caused by failing registries. But looking at how the industry currently behaves I don't think the will to stand to the rules and grab as much money as they can and leave the sinking ship asap.
There was that whole pre-registration BS but it is so convoluted and expensive I just waited till it went live. It did, and when I checked on my last name, it was set at $1200/year for a normally $30/year domain. This was when I was introduced to the idea of reserved domains in this new TLD system.
So I emailed them and put forth my argument, that this TLD in particular is a bit unfair, considering I don't control what name I'm born with. I didn't think it would have any impact, because $$$.
One day I got an email and they offered me to buy it for a one-time price of $1200 and then the renewal would be set at $30. I said no. There are so many TLDs now that it's easy to get a common-word, easy-to-say one.
To be fair, it would also have been a bit unfair to the next guy with your last name if you had taken it.
I would really prefer using chris.blog instead of buying a .com domain like this-is-chriss-development-blog.com, just because any shorter .com domain is already taken.
So yes, a one-time fee of $250-$1,000 feels ok to me, especially considering what Automattic paid for the TLD.
If I register a .de domain today I am pretty sure that it will last a long time. But some of the new ones have a pretty sketchy vibe to it and I am not sure if I'd trust them enough to build a business on top of a .fancy domain
https://knockknockwhoisthere.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/dot...
"We are not bound to select a winner among RFP respondents and may hold the Domain Name for future allocation."
"We may activate and allocate to ourselves or third parties certain Domain Names (plus their IDN variants, where applicable) deemed necessary for the operation or the promotion of TLD."
"the Registry makes no guarantees or warranties as to whether any applicant will be successful in registering any Registry Domain Name."
The .io NIC web interface is really horrible and I ended up in an inconsistent state after making the "horrible" mistake of clicking the back button. Even though my Paypal account got charged, I received an email confirming I was the owner of the domain, and so on, I couldn't access my account.
Next step I took was contacting them. I got ignored and after 7 days later they made a transaction reversal on Paypal and I never heard a word back from them, even though I have tried to contact.
Some time later they made the o1.io domain a reserved one and so if I wanted it now I would have to pay thousands. What a shame.
The phone book is rather simple. Your individual given name or your business dba name is the dictionary key, and the phone number is the dictionary value. Your dictionary entry is automatically included, unless you paid to be "unlisted". That would keep your phone service provider from printing your name-number pair in their phone books.
This approach is still viable. Every state has a database of corporate names and dba registrations. The secretary of state for Illinois, as an example, could make aaa-plumbing.corp.il.us resolve to the server address for "AAA Plumbing, Inc.", if that business chose to disclose it, or to a landing page otherwise. Likewise, zzz-towing.llc.il.us could resolve to the address for "ZZZ Towing, LLC".
The US Patent and Trademark Office could do the same. Let lego.028.tm.us (and lego.009.tm.us, lego.041.tm.us, etc.) resolve to LEGO Juris A/S Corp's servers, so you can see a site about plastic building blocks, and let lego.005.tm.us resolve to American Lego Group Inc's server, so you can see a site about soy protein supplements.
If you are Foobar LLC, you really shouldn't have to register "foobar.com" and "foobar.net" and "foobar.cc" and "foobar.co.uk" and "foobar.biz" and "foobar.info" and "foobar.sucks" and "foobar.pooky" and "foobar.booger". It isn't really elucidative, and does not help discoverability to have so many TLDs. The problem is that all the simple names have been mined out of the original TLDs, and there is no mechanism to resolve name collisions between Foobar LLC out of the US and Foobar GmbH in Germany. Whoever grabs "foobar.com" first gets to keep it, and the other is stuck trying to make some DNS entry that somehow relates to the company name.
Adding a bunch of niche TLDs helps a bit, but not if the registrar can charge $1k/year for names. That's just ridiculous. You're not going to end up with all the Johns on the Internet getting their own john.something domain name that way. You just let the richest John on the Internet to have all the john.anything domain names.
You mean monitor stands?
1 .chem 16 .book 31 .farm
2 .paint 17 .flex 32 .bev
3 .clean 18 .skin 33 .booze
4 .oil 19 .build 34 .smoke
5 .drug 20 .home 35 .ads / .biz
6 .metal 21 .ware 36 .fin
7 .mech 22 .rope 37 .con
8 .tool 23 .yarn 38 .tel
9 .sci 24 .tex 39 .mov
10 .med 25 .cloth 40 .mat
11 .env 26 .lace 41 .edu / .fun
12 .wheel 27 .floor 42 .tek / .law
13 .gun 28 .toy 43 .hos
14 .bling 29 .meat 44 .doc / .eco
15 .music 30 .food 45 .soc / .sec
The clear correspondence between domain and Nice category would make it easier to evict name-squatters that are not engaged in the relevant type of business.Also, for that matter, .plc.uk, .ac.uk, .sch.uk, .nhs.uk, .police.uk and .gov.uk. All of them are available only to organisations that already exist in a particular context, and only with their 'real' name.
That doesn't prevent some collisions around characters that are legal in business names but not in DNS, of course, and it also doesn't mean that anyone actually uses the .ltd.uk and .plc.uk domains: I don't think I've actually ever seen one in the wild. I've seen all the others, though.
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=chris.blog
Maybe the domain got bought during the sunrise period by a copyright holder!?
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=matt.blog https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=dave.blog
So yes it seems it got reserved. I wonder why too.
P.S. I'm a chris too ;) that's why im so interested in this, I own chris.lu but as it is a country tld this is not so good from a SEO point of view. I want to change if I find a better one, but haven't found one yet. Have fun with your new chris.lol :)
I had something like this happened before with WordPress.com - I have nikolay.wordpress.com, and then an employee took it way from me. After making a long discussion on TechChrunch about it, the employee decided to give it back to me.
So, my point is, there's nothing new under the sun here - obviously Matt is the old Matt having double standards, and not knowing what's acceptable and what is not in the digital world.
Also, he's going against his investor's interested, because some of these domains could've brought in millions of dollars, but he wants to do his buddies favors, and not honor what was promised.
Edit: Maybe if there are several of us, we should try to see if we can have a class action lawsuit. Our hundreds of dollars were used by the Automattic for 3 months, that's a lot of money collectively, and they should not get away - there was no mentioning of any Founders when they took our money!
The title of this article was a bait & switch.
I agree with the OP. They seems to gather the popularity info by accepting pre-register requests.
Is there any policy to ban this behavior? Shouldn't the TLD be publicly opened?
nothing is stopping you from reselling *.whatever.com and so forth.
i wish i had my whole name as a domain, thats pretty awesome for you!
Still haven't received the refund, by the way.
The twist in this case? The domain I applied for is now pointing directly towards WordPress.com. So get.blog, owned by parent company Automattic, took the domain which had been made available for the public, and gave it to WordPress.com. I wonder what ICANN will have to say?
SHADY AF.
While it's far less-convenient for global companies and "ignoring borders", it decentralizes the system. Compartmentalizing failure and allowing some kinds of competition.
So the US might choose to allow cocacola.us, while the UK might have on a grouping scheme like cocacola.co.uk, and meanwhile North Korea refuses outright or insists on cocacoala.obeys.dear.leader.nk, whatever.
Not that often, and even when they do it often means very real issues in terms of governance of internet infrastructure.
> I'm not sure that making all domains depend on things that exist in the real world is a good idea.
But domains already depend on things which exist in the real world! Not only are they leased by real-world entities, but even the names of domains already refer to countries, companies, brands, products, activities, clubs, and people.
The real difference with what we have now is that it's a weird global monopoly that has shown it's willing to erode organizational principles in order to make a buck.
Splitting it up by sovereign nations is actually moving back closer to the decentralized principles of the internet, avoiding a single point of (political) failure, and creating subsections which can evolve separately and cover for one another.
Ex: Turkey's emerging dictatorship refuses to let anyone register erdogansucks.net.tr ? Fine, go register erdogansucks.net.de , and advertise with that instead.
I mean, if we created a new distributed system, and grandfathered the old one, how can the current incumbents stop it? The control over a name pointing to an address could be done with a blockchain, I'm hearing.
So we move to a new naming convention. An arbitrary prefix on the end of a name shouldn't mean $$$$.
I'm saying we (techies anyway, not money-grubbing VC's), can make the decision for them, en masse. When they say "But, we need to make money from this!", we reply, "No, we need a naming service for these internet addresses. Go get stuffed."
The finer details of how it all works can be left till later.
That's a weird way of putting it. Anyone can create DNS roots based on any hierarchy they want, no-one will stop you from doing that. The meaningful question is how do you get anyone to use your fancy new roots?
Because the name you wish to register is not available as .com domain.
> Nobody is going to remember or type in such a domain
I don't think this is true, I live in Europe and we have tons of country tlds, people use and remember them.
Also is chris.blog really so much longer to type then chris.com or a lot harder to remember? I don't agree.
At first it might feel strange to type something else then .com but as I said in europe we have country tlds and it works well.
It depends on the audience. If you have a non-technical audience or you are e-commerce a .com is basically a necessity still.
City domains, like sadiq.london.
Admittedly, I can't remember any publicity of the weirder ones, like .lol or .xyz.
There's still plenty of good ones left. I created a program to help me find them: https://github.com/jedberg/wordgen
In particular, I have a 5-character easy to spell meaningless name that I am reserving for some large scale service I will build in the future.
Getting an unregistered .com is tough, but many are available at a reasonable price on secondary market. I define reasonable price as under $1000. When I decided on the Sendlinks name, the seller originally wanted $5000. I made the decision to buy it at that price once I was ready to re-brand.
Since no one else would likely buy the name, I wasn't too concerned about someone taking it. Fast forward a few months later, I was at the point where I had money and so I decided to just buy it then and cross that item from my launch checklist. Luckily for me, the price dropped to $2000.
I own the .com domains of my Internet nickname and my last name among other properties.
The only safe domains for everyday use are .com, .net, and .org - and the well-known country codes that have been around for at least 10 years. Anything else is going to cause you headaches, and your "investment" for a short memorable domain name is not going to feel worthwhile.
Plus, the registrars are scum with these TLDs. Just stay away.
It's gonna be a case-by-case thing whether one option is better than the other, but them's the breaks.