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Adobe To Pay $1M For Data Breach, Bolster Security, North Carolina AG Says

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This data breach nonsense with slaps on the wrist is very easy to fix. Just have the government assign a dollar value to each piece of private information and allow for class action lawsuits for data breaches.

For example

Social security number $5000

Credit card number $1000

Address $500

Telephone $200

Email $100

I have been saying that companies that wish to collect and store private data should be forced to buy "data insurance" for this purpose and to incentive only storing necessary information

There are lots of shady lawyers out there, and this would give them an incentive to pay hackers to increase the size of data breaches.

Indeed. Seems like a cobra effect situation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

But it wouldn't be a reward. It'd be a fine paid to the government. The only real reason with malicious intent I can see from it is people intentionally hacking companies to bankrupt them or cripple them. But that just means they had weak security anyways

The OP was talking about class action lawsuits. The plaintiffs in class actions are individuals, not governments. I took that the mean the OP was talking about penalties to private actors, rather than to governments.

Adobe made $1.46 billion in revenue for Q3 2016: http://news.adobe.com/sites/adobe.newshq.businesswire.com/fi...

Also, increasing their security team by 1 engineer would have cost them more than $1M (assuming a salary of $100K). So from a pure economic standpoint it makes more sense for them to keep paying fines in future breaches.

How does a salary of $100,000 cost more than $1,000,000???

based on HN math I see promoted with respect to engineer costs, an employee now costs a company 9-10x their salary.

but the op might have been meaning over a 10 year period... ?

That is not remotely accurate

my sarcasm tag wasn't working.

every year I see numbers going up in discussions here, with a recent claim that a netflix engineer cost was $430k (salary + overhead). sr engineers at netflix on glassdoor were touching $200k - the "cost" (wild-ass guess on part of the poster) seems a bit out of whack, and I was negatively exaggerating for effect.

But also I originally thought this was damages for a long-running practice - it wasn't. A 2013 data breach, from the article.

NC is getting a whopping $70k from this - likely many multiples of that eaten up in time/money and opportunity costs. I've seen a bit of "yay, there's precedent for paying a fine for this sort of thing" but this fine just put a price on this sort of activity. Data breach affecting someone in NC? You'll face a fine of $1.50 per account. :/

Unreal. I know that every hit I've ever had with my compromised email / password came from this hack.

I am not aware of other firms that were fined by the government for their negligence w.r.t to a breach. I would applaud the NC AG for pursuing this. Despite the small amount, it sets a precedent. The second time Adobe fails, I presume their fine will ratchet up. Remember, they were using DES ECB for their passwords

> A total of 52,734 North Carolina consumers were affected.

And also 152,989,508 email addresses were leaked, with sufficient information to derive the password in many cases.

I got interested in this at the time and was pretty stunned at how easily I could mine passwords: http://olivernash.org/2014/01/03/dna-of-a-password-disaster/...

The extraterritorial EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) sets fines of up to 4% of global annual revenue for companies not sufficiently protecting the personal data of EU citizens from May 2018 and onwards (with a cap of 20 million EUR).

The requirements for compliance are absolutely non-trivial, so I suggest that startups (and older companies) start designing compliance and privacy into their business processes and systems already today.

EUR20m isn't a cap - the fines are up to EUR20m or 4% of annual worldwide turnover, whichever is higher.

Do they have a feed into security yet? At the time I reported the release of all the emails and I couldn't get past first line support. They kept telling me that spam wasn't their problem.

That amounts to less than 2 dollars per affected customer.

Leaves corporates with very little motivation to take such breaches seriously.

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